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Start Date: 7-May-1971 12:26 PM

End Date: 7-May-1971 1:02 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:24:08

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:55:43

495a.mp3

495b.mp3

495c.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:26 pm to 1:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 495-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 495-18

Date: May 7, 1971
Time: 12:26 pm - 1:02 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Correspondence
          -Unknown persons
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                                Tape Subject Log
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           -A conversation
           -Haldeman's comments
     -An unknown man
     -President's reply

Cancer program
    -Memorandum
    -National Institutes of Health [NIH], Department of Health, Education
                                                                Conv. No.and
                                                                          495-16
                                                                             Welfare
                                                                                 (cont.)
          [HEW]
          -“Bureaucrats”
    -Responsibility to President
    -Possible changes
    -Responsibility
          -NIH, President

David Packard
     -Forthcoming meeting with John B. Connally
     -Melvin R. Laird
     -Position on Lockheed[?]
     -A decision

Youth
     -Packard’s children
     -Elite
            -David Rockefeller
            -Henry A. Kissinger
     -Haldeman’s and John D. Ehrlichman’s children
            -Ehrlichman's son at Stanford University
     -Edmund S. Muskie

Unemployment figures
    -Full-time
    -Part-time workers
    -Significance
    -President's statement

Vice President Spiro T. Agnew's Schedule
     -Kissinger, William P. Rogers
     -Africa
     -Rogers
     -Kissinger
     -Greece, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR], Berlin
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Dr. Walter R[obert]Tkach
     -Dr. Charles Chassler's letter

President’s schedule
     -Use of President's time
           -Bill [surname unknown]
           -Attendance at meetings                            Conv. No. 495-18 (cont.)
                 -Effect
           -Public relations staff
                 -Meetings, plans
                 -Charles W. Colson

Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo[?]

Unknown persons

William D. Ruckelshaus
     -Meeting with Ehrlichman

Auto safety
     -Air bags
     -Seat belt warnings
     -Ford Motor Company
     -Auto association
     -Ford Motor Company
           -Possible future requests
     -Administration position
     -Bureaucrats
     -Consumers
           -Seat belts

Kissinger
     -President's forthcoming meeting on Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
     -Haldeman's conversation with Kissinger, May 6, 1971
     -Dinner
           -Bennett A. Cerf
           -Zeppo Marx

Henry [last name unintelligible]
    -Death
    -President's letter
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Alcoholism
     -Businessmen, lawyers, politicians, bankers
     -Businessmen
     -Job pressures
     -Country clubs
     -High level persons
                                                          Conv. No. 495-18 (cont.)

SALT
    -Possible press conference
         -President’s view
         -Timing
         -Date

President's schedule
     -Florida trip
            -Time of departure
                 -Press conference
     -An office event

Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
     -SALT
     -USSR
     -People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative

Foreign policy
     -USSR
     -PRC initiative
          -Kissinger
          -Effect on USSR initiative
     -USSR summit
     -PRC summit
     -Timing of summits
          -1972 election
          -President's advice
          -President's experience
                -Briefing for Presidential candidates
                      -Lyndon B. Johnson
     -PRC initiative
          -Kissinger’s expectations
                -Vietnam
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           -Vietnam
                -Haldeman’s view of Haig's position
                -Draft
                      -Timing
                      -Effect
                      -Laird's position
                            -Troop levels in Europe
                -Casualties                                            Conv. No. 495-18 (cont.)
                -US combat role
                      -Troop levels
                -Kissinger
                -PRC
                -Haig
           -USSR
           -Trade missions
                -David M. Kennedy
                -Rogers
           -PRC initiative
                -Kissinger, President
           -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Washington, D.C. demonstrations
         -Effect
         -Part-time workers
               -Department of Labor
         -Telephone poll
               -Duration
                    -Reason

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]
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           -President's schedule forthcoming press conference
                 -Timing
                       -An announcement of summit

           -Forthcoming meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu
                -Date
                      -Kissinger, Haig                           Conv. No. 495-18 (cont.)
                -Summit announcement

     Vietnam negotiations
          -A decision by President
          -Kissinger
          -PRC
          -Negotiations
          -President's policy

Haldeman left at 1:02 pm.