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Conversation: 496-009

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Start Date: 10-May-1971 12:57 PM

End Date: 10-May-1971 1:30 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:27:16

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:33:30

496a.mp3

496b.mp3

496c.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:57 pm to 1:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 496-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 496-9

Date: May 19, 1971
Time: 12:57 pm - 1:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger

     Institute of world politics, Moscow
           -Kissinger's meeting with Director

     Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations
           -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] position
                -Proposal
                -Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Anatoliy F. Dobrynin

     A message

     Vietnam
          -Negotiations
              -Dobrynin
              -Hanoi
                     -Le Duan
              -USSR, People's Republic of China [PRC]
              -Xuan Thuy
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 9/08)



SALT
    -Dobrynin
    -US instructions

Vietnam
     -President's meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu
     -Timing
                                                          Conv. No. 496-9 (cont.)
SALT
    -USSR
    -Politburo

Vietnam
     -Negotiations
     -Congress
          -Howard K. Smith
          -Possible proposal by President to Congress
                -Dobrynin
     -US position
     -Draft
     -Meeting with Thieu

SALT
    -USSR

Vietnam
     -Negotiations
     -President's meeting with Thieu
     -Congress
           -Cooper-Church Amendment, McGovern-Hatfield amendment
           -Effect
     -Negotiations
           -David K. E. Bruce
           -Possible deadline
           -President's meeting with Thieu
           -Deadline
           -Prisoners of War [POWs]
           -Congress
     -Briefings
           -Kissinger
           -Haig
                 -Agriculture representatives, May 7, 1971
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 9/08)



           -Kissinger
                 -Meeting with Ronald W. Reagan, May 8, 1971
                       -President's April 7, 1971 Speech
     -President's April 7, 1971 Speech
     -President's policies
           -Public opinion

SALT                                                               Conv. No. 496-9 (cont.)
    -USSR
    -“Doves and Hawks”
    -USSR
    -Berlin
          -D[avid] Kenneth Rush, Kissinger, William P. Rogers, USSR ambassador
          -US position
          -Instructions to Rush
    -PRC
    -Possible speech by President
    -Proposal
          -”National command”
          -Antiballistic Missile [ABM]
    -Gerard C. Smith
    -USSR
    -Schedule
    -“Doves”
    -USSR position
          -Dobrynin
    -Berlin
    -Possible public opinion
    -Sino-Soviet relations
          -Rogers’ Statement
                -Possible effect
                      -Kissinger's conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -President's statement
          -Dobrynin

Vietnam
     -US role
           -Thieu
     -Le Duan
           -Moscow
     -President's meeting with Thieu
           -Midway
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



                 -Date
           -PRC
           -US role
                -Vietnamization
                -Troop withdrawals
           -Casualties
                -Numbers for week
           -Senate                                                     Conv. No. 496-9 (cont.)
                -Frank F. Church's statements
                -Administration
                -SALT, Summit
           -Negotiations
                -US offer
                -Dates
                -Thieu
                -POWs
                       -North Vietnamese position
           -Bombing
           -Negotiations
                -Timing
                       -Xuan Thuy, Kissinger
                -US offer
                       -North Vietnamese Response

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

           -Demonstrations
               -Press coverage

     USSR

     PRC initiative
         -Kissinger forthcoming trip
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 9/08)



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]


         PAKISTAN                                            Conv. No. 496-9 (cont.)


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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         -Meeting arrangements


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 14s ]


    PAKISTAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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         -USSR
         -Pakistan
               -US ambassador Joseph S. Farland
               -Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan
         -Idea of “Special Emissary”
         -USSR
         -Possible trip
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



                -Arrangements
                -”Special Emissary”
                           -Bruce
                           -Robert D. Murphy

     Vietnam
          -Demonstrations
              -President's policy                                 Conv. No. 496-9 (cont.)
              -President's critics

     USSR, PRC
         -Meeting
             -Arrangements

     SALT

Kissinger left at 1:30 pm