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Start Date: 27-May-1971 12:10 PM

End Date: 27-May-1971 1:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Kissinger, Henry A.Bull, Stephen B.Butterfield, Alexander P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:18:50

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:05:06

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504b.mp3

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NARA Description:

On May 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:10 pm to 1:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 504-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 504-8

Date: May 27, 1971
Time: 12:10 pm - 1:00 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.


     Malik Faisal ibn Abd al-Aziz al-Saud’s visit


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     SAUDI ARABIA


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         -Possible impact of recent meeting on US Jews


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    Visits by Heads of State
          -Blair House use
                -Haldeman call Wiliam P. Rogers
                -Anastasio Somoza Debayle
          -Expense
                -Food
                -Refreshments
          -Military responsibilities
          -Gen. James S. (“Don”) Hughes
          -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
          -Hughes
          -Military District of Washington unit
                -State visits
                -President's appreciation
                      -Possible letter to Moorer
                            -Appreciation
          -Washington, DC
                -Public impression
          -Crowd size
          -King Faisal [?]
          -Somoza's visit
          -Value of meetings
                -Political impact
                -Time required
          -Blair House
          -Africans
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         -Instructions to Haldeman
               -President’s note to Hughes
    Presidential press conference
         -Scheduling
         -Congress
         -Bureaucracy

    Peter G. Peterson                                         Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)
          -Economic presentation to bipartisan leadership
               -President's attendance
                     -Reception
               -Schedule
                     -Date
               -Location of presentation
               -Number of attendees
               -Attendees

    President's schedule
         -Rose Mary Woods


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         -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, Carl B. Albert
         -Vietnam
              -Robert S. Elegant
                    -Los Angeles Times
                    -President’s possible meeting
                    -Elegant’s location
         -Chalmers Roberts
         -Wiliam S. White
         -Charles E. Wilson
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      -Meeting with President
      -Unions
            -Anti-trust laws
      -Meeting with Peter M. Flanigan
-President to meet with Spiro T. Agnew
      -Trip to Korea
-Henry A. Kissinger
-John N. Mitchell                                           Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)
-Dr. [Edward] Zigler to meet with President
      -Final report of White House Conference on Children
-Businessmen's dinner
      -Maurice H. Stans dinner
      -W. Clement Stone dinner
      -National Association of Businessmen [NAB]
      -Business council
      -Peterson
      -Briefing
      -Dinner
      -Timing
-Clark MacGregor's recommendation
      -President to meet with Republican regulars
            -House conservatives
                  -Samuel L. Devine
                  -Daniel H. Kuykendall
                  -Birchers
            -House loyalists
                  -Kuykendall task force
                  -Devine
                  -Bill Archer
                  -Page Belcher
                  -William G. Bray
                  -J. Herbert Burke
                  -John N. (“Happy) Camp
                  -Don H. Clausen and Delwin Clawson
                  -George Collins
                  -Philip M. Crane
                  -Edward J. Derwinski
                  -John H. Duncan
      -MacGregor
-Senate candidates
      -Meeting with President
      -William B. Saxbe
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               -Kuykendall
         -Invitation from Melvin R. Laird
         -Somoza dinner
         -Camp David
         -Farewell call of Danish Ambassador
         -Meeting with unknown woman
         -Unknown man
                                                              Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)

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         -National merit scholars
              -Agnew
              -President's previous meeting, 1970
              -High school students
                    -18 year old vote
              -Location of Agnew’s forthcoming meeting
                    -Blair House

    Mitchell

    Youth vote
        -Identification with youth
        -Old folks
        -National merit scholars

    President's schedule
         -President's possible appearance
                -New Hampshire General Court
                -Robert C. Hill
                -Peterson
         -President's possible visit to New Hampshire
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         -Maine


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[National Security]
[Duration: 14s ]                                               Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)


    PROTECTION OF THE PRESIDENT


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               -President's visit to Maine
         -President's visit to New Hampshire
               -Legislature
               -Cancer research center
                     -Federal grant
                     -Dartmouth University
                            -Commencement
                            -Summer session
                            -Medical school
               -Manchester
               -Primary
               -Memos to Haldeman
                     -Jeffrey Bell
                     -Patrick J. Buchanan
                     -Kevin P. Phillips
               -Primary
         -Primary states
               -Oregon
               -Wisconsin
               -Nebraska
               -New Hampshire
                     -President’s possible visit
                            -Dreyfuss Island
                            -Reception
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                      -Hill
                      -Summer resorts
          -Maine
                -Dreyfuss Island
          -Chadd's Ford, Pennsylvania museum opening
                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                -Wyeth family
          -Pennsylvania                                         Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)
          -American Medical Association [AMA]
                -40,000 doctors in Atlantic City
                -Cancer
                -Political impact
                      -Edward L. Morgan
                -Health speech
                -June 21-22, 1971
                      -California
          -California
                -Mitchell

Kissinger entered at 12:40 pm.

     Vietnam
          -Nguyen Van Thieu

     President's schedule
          -California
          -Thieu
          -Meetings
                 -Goals meeting
          -Thieu
          -Fourth of July weekend
                 -Honor America
                       -Champaign, Illinois
                             -University
                 -Possible festivities
                 -Inspirational speech
          -California
          -Midway
          -Congress
          -AMA
          -California
          -AMA
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               -Possible reception

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 1:00 pm.

     US relations with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
         -President's meeting with William P. Rogers
         -Balance of force reductions
         -Chinese representation                                    Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)
         -Balance of force reductions
               -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT]
               -Forthcoming National Security Council [NSC] meeting
               -Rogers
               -Europeans
                     -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
               -Discussion with USSR
                     -September
               -Kissinger Meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                     -Letter
               -Rogers
                     -Cut in forces
               -Laird

     Two Chinas issue
         -US strategy
               -People’s Republic of China [PRC] and Taiwan, Republic of China [ROC]
         -Chinese nationalists
               -Taiwan
               -United Nations [UN] Security Council Seat
               -Robert D. Murphy
         -UN Security Council Seat
         -British
               -Rogers
                     -Forthcoming consultations
         -Status of decision making
               -Consensus
         -Chinese
         -Rogers
               -Politics
               -Eastern newspapers
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    CHINA                                                    Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)


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         -Unknown person’s views
         -US peace posture
         -Senate
         -Kissinger’s view
               -Existing policy
               -United Nations [UN]
               -Rogers
               -PRC
               -Taiwan
         -Possible consequences of US policy shift
         -Joseph W. Alsop
         -Asia
         -Africa
         -Middle East


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]


    CHINA


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         -Peking
               -President’s possible visit
         -Rogers
         -Non-committal position
         -UN Security Council Seat
               -Credentials issue                              Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)
                     -US veto
               -Majority
         -Issues


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    CHINA


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             -Representation
         -PRC, Taiwan
             -Security Council
             -George H.W. Bush
             -State Department

    Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
        -Timing
        -NSC meeting
        -Laird
        -Rogers
        -Andrew J. Goodpaster

    Two Chinas issue
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         -Consultation with allies
               -British
               -Australians
         -USSR
         -Kissinger's memo to the President
               -Dobrynin's comments to Kissinger
                     -Consequences for USSR
                          -PRC in UN                         Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)
                     -USSR
         -Chinese revolution
         -Harold Lee
         -Mao Tse Tung
         -Ho Chi Minh
         -Josef V. Stalin
         -PRC compared to USSR
               -Communist Country
                     -Communist Party
                     -Army
         -Taiwan
         -Changing US policy


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13
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    CHINA


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              -Possible PRC reaction
                   -Seat in Security Council
                   -US present policy
                   -Taiwan
                   -Peking
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Stephen B. Bull enters at an unknown time after 12:40 pm.

     President's schedule
          -King Faisal

     Agnew
         -Rogers                                                           Conv. No. 504-8 (cont.)

     President’s schedule
          -King Faisal

Kissinger and Bull left and Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 1:00 pm.

     Kissinger

The President and Butterfield left at 1:00 pm.