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Start Date: 4-Jun-1971 11:20 AM

End Date: 4-Jun-1971 12:09 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.Pastore, John O.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:39:09

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:23:34

512a.mp3

512b.mp3

512b2.mp3

512c.mp3

512d.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, and John O. Pastore met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:20 am to 12:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 512-12

Date: June 4, 1971
Time: 11:20 am - 12:09 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman


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     President’s energy message
          -Chet Holifield
                -Effect
                -President’s conversation with Ronald L. Ziegler
                -President’s conversation with Craig Hosmer

     Atomic energy
         -Scientists’ fears
         -Opposition
         -Future importance
               -Cost of imported oil
                     -Peter G. Peterson’s projections
               -Export value

     Desalinization of water
          -Political appeal
                -California, Florida, Phoenix
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
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     -National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]

Domestic issues poll
    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
    -Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
    -Crime
    -Environment
    -Leading questions
    -Regional breakdowns
          -Revenue sharing

Revenue sharing
    -Wilbur D. Mills
    -John B. Connally
    -Carl B. Albert
    -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
    -Russell B. Long’s comments to Ehrlichman, June 3
          -Mills

President’s previous press conference
     -Long’s comments regarding May Day demonstrators

President’s previous meeting with police officials
     -Rocky Pomerance
     -Officials
           -Press accounts

May Day demonstrators
    -Popular reactions

Domestic issues poll
    -Violence

Drug abuse
     -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
           -Possible role with administration
     -Morals
           -Biblical
     -Jaffe
     -Turkey, France, Laos
     -President’s schedule
           -Jaffe
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/08)



              -State Department
              -Previous meeting with military
              -State Department
                    -John N. Irwin, II
                    -David Packard
                          -Melvin R. Laird
                    -Elliot L. Richardson
                    -John N. Mitchell                             Conv. No. 512-12 (cont.)
                    -Connally
        -Eugene T. Rossides
              -Role
                    -Mitchell
              -Possible meeting with Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
        -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Connally
              -David M. Kennedy
        -Rossides
              -Use of Internal Revenue Service [IRS], US Customs Service
        -Doctors
              -Upcoming meeting of the American Medical Association [AMA]
        -Pharmaceutical manufacturers
              -Richardson
        -Drug factory near Jersey City
              -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
              -Shipments to Mexico
        -Administration efforts
              -Connally
              -Mitchell
              -J. Edgar Hoover
                    -Attitude
                    -Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs [BNDD]

Polls
        -Busing
              -Edward L. Morgan’s efforts
              -Breakdown by region, race
        -Analysis
              -Mitchell
              -George W. Romney
              -Richard C. Van Dusen
              -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
              -Morgan
        -Statement
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                 -Release date
                      -Tricia Nixon’s wedding

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:20 am

     President’s signature

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:42 am                      Conv. No. 512-12 (cont.)

     Poll
            -Release date

     Peterson
          -President’s memo
                -Haldeman
          -Forthcoming conversation with Ehrlichman
                -Charles L. Shultze
                -John W. Gardner
          -Peterson’s previous meeting with Ehrlichman, Gardner
                -Gardner
                -Dr. Edwin H. Land
                -[Forename unknown] Dreyfus
                -Patrick E. Haggerty
                      -Japan
                      -National planning
                      -Possible use in US
                -Bernard Shreiver [sp?]
                -Research and development
                      -President’s memo
                -Applied versus theoretical research
                      -Haggerty’s views
                -Definition of agencies’ missions
                      -Department of Transportation [DOT]
                      -Department of Defense [DOD]
                      -Federal Aviation Administration [FAA]
                      -Foreign tourism
                -Accomplishment of agencies’ missions
                      -Robert S. McNamara’s views
                            -Research and Development [RAND] Corporation
                      -Universities
                      -Forthcoming Domestic Council meeting
                            -President’s schedule
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
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                           -Cabinet members’ attendance

     Public service jobs
          -Pending legislation
                -Congressional Republicans’ stand

[The President talked with John O. Pastore between 11:42 am and 11:43 am]
                                                                     Conv. No. 512-12 (cont.)
[Conversation No. 512-12A]

[See Conversation No. 4-28]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Public service jobs
          -President’s possible veto
                -Mitchell
                -Status of national economy
          -Administration’s alternative
                -Revenue sharing versus categorical programs

     Camp Pendleton
         -Lease of beach
              -F. Edward Hébert
              -Clark MacGregor’s memo
              -President’s schedule

     Economic advisors
         -Paul W. McCracken
         -Herbert Stein
               -Report of June 4

     National economy
          -Optimism
          -Monetary crisis
          -Ehrlichman’s conversation with Paul Davies, George P. Shultz
                -Deferral of capital expenditures
                -International monetary situation
          -Crime
          -Unemployment
          -Shultz’s location
          -Unemployment
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
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      -Stein’s views
            -Reaction
      -Possible administration action
            -Summer youth employment
                  -Urban unrest
            -James D. Hodgson’s role
            -Legislative action
            -Veto of public service jobs legislation   Conv. No. 512-12 (cont.)
      -Development of 20,000,000 jobs
            -Exports
            -New technology
            -Possible press response
-Retail sales
-Consumer credit
      -Increase in confidence
-Surveys
      -Public confidence in future
-Deutschmark crisis
      -Fears regarding dollar
-Poll results
      -Breakdown by age
      -War
      -Pollution
      -Crime
      -Social issues
      -Race
-Public confidence
      -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.’s actions
            -President’s credibility
      -Extrinsic circumstances
      -Public service jobs
            -Hodgson
            -Timing
-Unemployment
      -Stein’s views
-Cycles
      -Inflation
      -Recession
-Public confidence
      -Administration’s credibility
            -Predictions
-Stock market
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. 10/08)



           -Possible Wage-Price Board
                -Arthur F. Burns’ views
                -Businessmen’s views
           -Forthcoming housing statement
                -School statement
                -Mitchell
                -Timing of release
                                                                   Conv. No. 512-12 (cont.)
Ehrlichman left at 12:02 pm