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Start Date: 4-Jun-1971 12:22 PM

End Date: 4-Jun-1971 1:15 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Specter, ArlenMitchell, John N.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:34:04

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:28:34

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NARA Description:

On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Arlen Specter, John N. Mitchell, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:22 pm to 1:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 512-16

Date: June 4, 1971
Time: 12:22 pm - 1:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Arlen Specter and John N. Mitchell; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting

     Photograph

     Law enforcement
         -Specter’s success in Philadelphia
               -Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
         -Drug abuse
               -Federal government’s role
               -Application of programs
               -LEAA versus Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
               -National Institute of Mental Health [NIMH]
               -Research versus application
         -Youth gangs
               -Specter’s efforts
               -Age of members
               -Revocation of probation
                     -Frank L. Rizzo
               -Use of conspiracy theory
               -Police Athletic League
         -Bicentennial celebration
               -Specter’s possible conversation with George W. Romney
                     -Public housing
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              -Views of ghetto residents
              -Revitalization of Philadelphia
              -Tourism in Philadelphia
                   -Washington, DC
                   -Williamsburg, Virginia
              -Romney


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 6m 44s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    Revenue sharing
        -James H. J. Tate’s role
              -Wilbur D. Mills
              -Possible political value
        -LEAA
        -Education
        -Explanation to public
              -Property taxes
              -Education
              -Democratic Congressman from Philadelphia

    Drug abuse
         -Violent crime
         -Rehabilitation
         -Forthcoming federal program
               -Jurisdictional problems
                     -Departmental functions
               -Funding
         -International law enforcement cooperation
               -John E. (“Jack”) Ingersoll
               -Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs [BNDD]
                     -Cooperation with foreign governments
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                           -Heroin seizure in Spain, June 4
                           -Seizure of cocaine in Mexico
                                -Mexican Attorney General’s actions
         -Administration’s attitude
              -Addicts versus pushers
         -Need for education
              -Bowie K. Kuhn’s efforts
                    -Robert R. M. Carpenter’s call to Specter       Conv. No. 512-16 (cont.)
                    -Larry Bowa
                    -Denny Doyle
                    -Roger Brown
              -Role of athletes
                    -Carl M. Yastrzemski
         -Football game in Phoenix
              -Jack Stewart [sp?]
         -Administration’s program
              -Head
         -Specter’s efforts regarding addicts
              -Methadone
         -Criminal penalties
              -Cooperation by addicts in treatment programs
              -Courts’ cooperation


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 5m 26s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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    President’s public demeanor
         -Hugh Scott


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 41s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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                                                          Conv. No. 512-16 (cont.)


    Specter’s forthcoming public statement
         -Drug abuse
         -Specter’s work with youth
         -Politics
         -Bicentennial

    Drug abuse
         -Pre-indictment probation for addicts
               -Purpose
               -Effect
         -Legalization of marijuana
         -Penalties
         -Pre-indictment probation for addicts
         -Legalization of marijuana
               -Possible effect
         -Pre-indictment probation for addicts
               -Effect
         -Possible special court in New York
               -John D. Ehrlichman and Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
               -LEAA
               -Backlog
         -Pre-indictment probation for addicts
               -Procedures
         -Court backlog
         -Opinions written by judges
               -Warren E. Burger

    Court backlog
         -Plea bargaining
         -President’s previous meeting with police officials
         -Specter’s policy
         -New York
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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           -District of Columbia
                 -Judges
                 -Juvenile cases
           -Specter’s policy
                 -Need for more judges

     Mitchell’s schedule
          -District Attorneys                                   Conv. No. 512-16 (cont.)

     Court backlog
          -Specter’s policy
               -Reaction by police

     Burger
          -Schedule
               -District Attorneys
          -Efforts on court organization
               -Williamsburg meeting
          -Recent decision on habeas corpus
               -Earl Warren
               -State courts versus Federal courts

     Specter

     Patrick V. Murphy
           -Schedule
           -Attacks on Jerry V. Wilson

     Presentation of gifts by President
          -Specter’s son Shanin Specter

     Youth
          -Effect of Vietnam

Mitchell and Specter left at 1:15 pm