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Conversation: 518-003

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Start Date: 12-Jun-1971 10:32 AM

End Date: 12-Jun-1971 11:11 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:06:15

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:43:06

518a.mp3

518b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:32 am to 11:11 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 518-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 518-3

Date: June 12, 1971
Time: 10:32 am - 11:11 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger

     Le Duc Tho travels
         -Peking
         -Moscow
         -East German Party Congress
         -Peking and Moscow visit

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 9s ]

     FOREIGN RELATIONS

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              -Reason for travel
              -Agenda
              -Tho responsibilities
                   -Decisionmaking power
                   -Reason for travel
                        -Previous travels                             Conv. No. 518-2 (cont.)
                   -Norodom Sihanouk
                   -Negotiating skill

    Vietnam
         -Lyndon B. Johnson’s effort to end war
                -Handicaps
                -Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
         -President’s effort to end war
                -Handicaps
                     -Clark M. Clifford effort
                -Significance of Tho movement
                     -Negotiating style of North Vietnamese
                -Third party involvement
                     -US position
                           -Rebuttal of North Vietnamese changes
                                 -Clifford role
                                 -Hanoi
                           -Press
                                 -Kissinger’s meeting with Henry Hubbard and Jerrold L.
                                       Schecter, June 11
                                       -History of negotiations
                                       -US desire to negotiate
                                       -Washington Post article
                                             -Content
                                                  -Clifford error
                                                  -Administration error
         -North Vietnamese answer to May 31 proposal
                -Xuan Thuy
                -Opportunity for negotiations
                -Significance of Tho travels
         -Initiation of negotiations
                -Problems
                     -Dr. David K. E. Bruce
                     -Kissinger travel
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 19s ]
                                                               Conv. No. 518-3 (cont.)

    LOGISTICS


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                         -Return to Paris
                   -Bruce role
                   -President’s role
                         -General Nguyen Van Thieu
                         -Letter
                         -Melvin R. Laird
             -President’s role
                   -Breaking of deadlock
                         -Benefits
                   -Timing of agreement
                   -Effect of South Vietnam elections
             -Reports of Lieutenant General Duong Van (“Big Minh”) Minh-Nguyen Cao
                   Ky deal
                   -Effect on Thieu
                   -Ky Role
                   -Minh role
                   -US action
         -Cambodian problem
             -Military operations
                   -General Do Cao Tri death
                   -Lam Son
                   -Problems
                   -US gains
                   -North Vietnam strategy
                   -Thieu strategy
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         -Casualties
               -US dead and Missing in Action [MIA]
                     -Period of statistics
                     -Prospects
                     -News coverage
         -Protestors
               -General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
               -West Pointer in Sweden                       Conv. No. 518-3 (cont.)

    Middle East
        -Volatility
              -Department of State
              -US military aid to Israel
                    -Reaction of Jewish community
                    -Objectives
              -Strategy
                    -Suez Canal


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 13s ]


    ISRAEL


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                   -State Department interference
                         -Contact with Egyptians
                              -Donald Bergus role
                              -Effect
                   -Need for quiet
                         -Soviet involvement
                   -Need for objectives
                   -Prospects
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                         -Effect of other initiatives

    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
        -Summit negotiations
              -Possible courses of action
              -State Department role
                    -William P. Rogers’ role
                                                             Conv. No. 518-3 (cont.)
    People’s Republic of China [PRC]


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 13s ]


    FOREIGN POLICY


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         -Soviet summit
              -Announcement of PRC summit
              -Chou En-Lai role


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 29s ]


    FOREIGN POLICY


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         -Bruce mission announcement
         -Effect of Soviet summit on PRC announcement
              -Bruce role

                                                           Conv. No. 518-3 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National Security]
[Duration: 12s ]


    FOREIGN POLICY


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              -En-lai role
              -Dealing with Soviets
                     -Benefits of low-key approach
              -Bruce role
         -Soviet awareness
              -Magnitude of Sino-American contacts
              -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin comment
                     -Sino-Soviet contacts
                           -En-lai
                           -Aleksei N. Kosygin
                     -Nicolae Ceausescu role
                           -Message from Kissinger
         -PRC support for Romania, Yugoslavia
         -Soviet strategy
              -Pre-election harassment of US
                     -US reaction on “arms” policy
         -Soviet fear of Sino-American cooperation
         -USSR
              -Middle East
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               -Necessity for quiet
          -Leonid I. Brezhnev-President contact
               -Possible results
          -Kosygin speech
          -Nikolai V. Podgorny speech
          -Brezhnev speech
          -Content of speeches
               -Strategic Arms Limitations Talks [SALT]        Conv. No. 518-3 (cont.)
                     -Kosygin political position
                           -Podgorny
                           -Brezhnev

Vietnam
     -Clifford and John W. Gardner
     -Kissinger contact with press
           -US withdrawal efforts
     -President’s contact with John Sherman Cooper
           -Withdrawal efforts
     -North Vietnamese strategy
           -Lack of attendance at Paris meeting
                 -Reason
                       -Thuy conference with Tho
     -Cambodia problem
           -Laird role
           -Military Assistance Command, Vietnam [MACV] role
           -General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.’s role
                 -Effort of Abrams
                 -Thuy
     -Possibility of agreement
           -Prospects
           -Clifford
           -Effect on President’s critics
           -Past mistakes
                 -Treatment of President’s critics
           -Comparison of past Situations
           -Effect on President’s Critics
                 -PRC
                 -SALT
           -Press
     -Media
           -President’s meeting with National Broadcasting Company [NBC] executives
                 -Charles W. Colson
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                      -Bias reporting
                            -Administration reaction
                -Press concern with national good
                -Press concern with President’s achievements
                      -President’s achievements
                -Frank F. Church
                -Letter from McGeorge Bundy to Kissinger
                      -President’s achievements                       Conv. No. 518-3 (cont.)
                      -Frederic V. Malek
                -Strategy for “New Establishment”
                -W. Averell Harriman testimony before House of Representatives
                      -President’s policy
                            -Berlin negotiations
                      -Amunition for critics
                            -Middle East
                      -Goal of critics
                            -Effect of PRC policy
                      -President’s achievement compared with John F. Kennedy’s achievement
                            -Play in media
                            -Weather

The President and Kissinger left at 11:11 am