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Conversation: 527-003

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Start Date: 22-Jun-1971 1:48 PM

End Date: 22-Jun-1971 1:50 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:04:03

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:04:15

527a.mp3

527b.mp3

527c.mp3

527d.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:48 pm to 1:50 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 527-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 527-3

Date: June 22, 1971
Time: 1:48 pm - 1:50 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an unknown woman.
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     Request for John D. Ehrlichman

An unknown woman left at an unknown time before 1:50 pm.




                                                                     Conversation
                                                                     Conv. No. 527-3
                                                                                  No.(cont.)
                                                                                      527-4

Date: June 22, 1971
Time: 1:50 pm - 3:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Schedule
          -Henry A. Kissinger

     Kissinger
          -Conversation with Haldeman
          -Haldeman conversation with William P. Rogers

Butterfield left at 1:54 pm.

     Pentagon Papers
          -Poll

An unknown woman entered at an unknown time after 1:54 pm.

     Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
          -Kissinger

The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 1:55 pm.

     Pentagon Papers
          -Poll
                -Implications
                     -New York Times story as an issue
                     -View of printing stolen documents
                     -Times’ moral position
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 11s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1                                           Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)

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Haldeman spoke with an unknown person at an unknown time after 1:54 pm.

[Conversation No. 527-4B]

     Scheduling

[End of conversation]

     United States Information Agency [USIA]
          -Chain of command
                -Frank J. Shakespeare
                      -Kissinger contact
                      -Haldeman's contact
                -Robert B. Anderson
                -President's conversation with Shakespeare
          -Shakespeare's self-image
                -Support for Nixon
                -Relationship with Department of State

Ehrlichman and Kissinger entered at 1:55 pm.

     Kissinger's schedule

     President's schedule
          -Camp David visit
          -Return to Washington
                 -Shipbuilding contract signing ceremony
                      -Kissinger's schedule
                 -Budget session
          -Kissinger's schedule
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           -Possible short notice trip
Kissinger’s meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
     -Berlin negotiations
     -Linkage of administrations over Vietnam
     -Summit
           -Soviet Union decision
                -Scheduling of summit
                -Dobrynin report                                Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
                -Leonid I. Brezhnev's schedule
                      -Visit to Germany
                -Timing of summit
                      -US and People’s Republic of China [PRC] contacts
                      -Onus of cancellation
                -Brezhnev travels
                      -Implications
                -Cancellation of Moscow summit
                -Role of PRC summit

US and PRC relations
     -Message from PRC to US
          -Arrangements for upcoming trip

US and Soviet Union relations

Anti-war amendments
     -Marlow W. Cook-Ted Stevens amendment
     -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield amendment
           -Clark MacGregor and leadership group
           -Voting on Mansfield proposal
     -Status of Mansfield amendment
     -Kissinger's conversations
           -Robert W. Packwood
           -Jack R. Miller
           -Winston L. Prouty
           -William E. Brock, III
           -Howard H. Baker
           -Stevens-Cook reference
           -Discussion of administration needs
           -Effect of amendments on negotiations
                 -Future events
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    Vietnam negotiations
         -Le Duc Tho arrival in Paris
              -Timing
                   -Rationale

    US strategic plans
         -US and PRC relations
         -US domestic turmoil                                 Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
               -Effect on PRC
               -Effect on Hanoi
               -Effect on Moscow
                     -Published articles on Pentagon Papers
               -Peking comments
                     -Kissinger’s monitoring of the press

    Congressional activities
        -Kissinger's contact with Senators
        -Mansfield status
        -Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty
              -Legal status
              -Allen J. Ellender
              -Call by President to Ellender
                    -Ramifications
                    -Timing
                    -Talking points


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 7s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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                    -Prior contact with Ellender
                    -Support for call
                          -U. Alexis Johnson
                          -George P. Shultz
                          -Richard M. Helms
               -Other remedies
                    -USIA
                    -House of Representatives                       Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)

     Pentagon Papers
          -Stewart J.O. Alsop
               -President's status
               -Administration obstacles
               -John F. Kennedy administration
               -Times action
               -Administration response
          -Weekly news publications
               -Administration standing
               -Kissinger attendance at Department of State reception
                     -John N. Hightower retirement
                     -Paul W. Ward retirement
                     -Chalmers Roberts
                     -Demeanor of newsmen
          -Press
               -Whitney North Seymour, Jr.
               -Prosecution of Times
                     -Seymour
                     -US Attorney
                     -Need for public relations points
                           -John N. Mitchell
                           -Melvin R. Laird
                           -William P. Rogers
          -Declassification action
               -Scope
               -White House and Department of Defense [DOD] procedure
               -Precedent
                     -Ehrlichman’s efforts

[Ehrlichman talked with Laird at an unknown time between 1:55 pm and 2:43 pm]

[Conversation No. 527-4A]
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     [Unintelligible]
[End of telephone conversation]

     Pentagon Papers
          -Declassification action at DOD
               -White House and DOD procedure
                     -Mansfield
                     -Carl B. Albert                                   Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
                           -Associated Press [AP] story
                     -Public perception
               -Robert McNamara's papers
               -Albert
               -Laird and Rogers meeting with Albert
               -Mitchell
                     -Mansfield and President meeting
                     -Albert
                     -Laird
                     -Action
                     -Laird and Rogers action
                     -Laird leaks
                           -Scope of declassification action
                           -Laird meeting with Senate Foreign Relations Committee
                           -Effect on legal action
                     -Laird and Rogers action
                     -Ehrlichman and Laird conversation
                           -Albert request for documents
                           -President's meeting with Albert, [Thomas] Hale Boggs, and
                                 Mansfield
                           -Preferred action
               -Mansfield breakfast
                     -Clark M. MacGregor
                     -Mansfield's resolution
                           -Timing
                     -Mansfield’s position
                     -Timing of other events
                           -Leaders meeting
                                 -“Big Five” Committee chairman
                                       -Pentagon Papers discussion
                           -Cook-Stevens amendment vote
                           -Mansfield amendment vote
                     -Benefits of changing Mansfield's breakfast
                     -Rogers’ attendance
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            -Call from MacGregor to Kissinger
            -Rogers
     -Mitchell's knowledge
            -MacGregor conversation with Mitchell
-Source of administration decision on declassification
     -President
     -Laird
            -Rationale for action                           Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
-Laird's action
-Laird and Rogers action
-Options for action by President
     -”Big Five” Committee chairman
     -Need for proper public relations
     -Mansfield
     -Results of Laird statements
     -Ronald L. Ziegler's briefing
            -Instruction from President to the Secretary of Defense
                  -Congressional access to papers
                  -Leaders meeting
                  -Play on evening news
                  -Rogers and Laird action
                        -Reflection on discipline
                  -Laird and Rogers action
                  -Laird's statement
                  -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                        -Identification of declassifiable papers
                  -Patrick J. Buchanan
                        -Speech
            -Legal action
            -Focus on declassifiable papers
                  -Times view
                  -Chicago Tribune call for declassification
            -Declassification of World War II, Korean War, Bay of Pigs, Cuba
                  documents
                  -Need for experts
            -Laird and Rogers action
            -President's role in administration response
            -Laird and Mitchell’s actions
                  -Results
     -President's role
     -Statement by administration
     -Mitchell's instruction to the Department of Justice
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                          -Legal action
                     -Legal action
                          -Supreme Court
                                -District Court
                                -Problems of decision
                                      -Mitchell’s view
                          -Delay of further publication
                          -Public relations                         Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)

     Congressional relations
         -Phone call to Ellender
               -Purpose

     Pentagon Papers
          -Administration response
               -Declassification
          -Laird's action
               -Call to Ehrlichman
               -Rogers
               -Call to Ehrlichman
               -Call to Kissinger
          -Declassification of World War II, Korean War, Bay of Pigs documents
               -Ehrlichman
               -Ehrlichman's conversation with Charles W. Colson
                      -Tom Charles Huston
               -Haig
               -Preliminary draft report
               -Shakespeare
               -Call to Laird and Rogers

Kissinger and Ehrlichman left at 2:43 pm.

          -President's handling of staff
          -Administration counter
                -Focus on other wars
                      -Public perception

     Schedule
          -Unknown person [Spiro T. Agnew ?]
          -Visit to President
                -Content
          -Press conference
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     -President's meeting with business leaders
           -Peter G. Peterson
           -Utility
                 -Donald McI. Kendall
                 -Size
           -Purpose
           -Format
                 -Dialogue                                Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
                       -Upcoming events
                       -President's legislative agenda
                             -Examples of welfare

Legislation
     -President's legislative program
           -President’s conversation with Ehrlichman
           -House action on Social Security

Schedule
     -President's dinner with business leaders
           -Other events
           -Format
                 -Peterson
                       -Comments by others
                 -President's contact with members
                       -Table configuration
                             -Problems

Pentagon Papers
     -Laird action
          -White House responsibility
          -Kissinger’s view
     -Rogers’ action
          -Rationale
     -Administration response
          -Supreme Court action
                 -Ehrlichman
                 -Need for firm action
                 -Public relations
     -Mansfield Amendment
     -MacGregor's effort
          -Supersonic Transport [SST] problem
     -Administration response
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             -President's role
                   -Possible meeting with Congressional leaders
                   -Ziegler
                   -Laird
                   -Announcement of declassification
                         -Play by media

Polls                                                             Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
        -Use
        -Focus on issues

Shakespeare meeting
     -Haldeman's role

President's schedule meeting with Agnew
     -Purpose
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower
     -Use of staff
            -President’s conversation with John Foster Dulles
            -Pattern of meetings
            -Reports from Cabinet officers
                  -Anderson report
                        -Canal Treaty
                  -John N. (“Jack”) Irwin, II
                  -Rogers
            -MacGregor
                  -Request for opinion on Ellender call
     -Previous meetings with Ellender

Pentagon Papers
     -Ehrlichman
           -[D. Kenneth Rush ?]
           -Cabinet officers' responsibilities
           -Laird
     -Declassification
     -Albert
     -Laird and Rogers’ meeting with Congressman
     -Declassification
           -Procedure
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     President's schedule
          -Dinner, June 22
                 -Entertainment
                      -Possible performance by US Army Chorus
                 -Timing
          -Eisenhower's method

                                                                    Conv. No. 527-4 (cont.)
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 3:05 pm.

           -Meeting with Peterson [?]

Butterfield left at 3:06 pm.

Haldeman left at 3:07 pm.