Conversation: 529-021
Prev: 529-020 Next: 529-022Start Date: 28-Jun-1971 10:54 AM
End Date: 28-Jun-1971 11:38 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Jordan, Vernon E., Jr.; Brown, Robert J.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Shultz, George P.; Garment, Leonard; Atkins, Oliver F. ("Ollie"); Sanchez, Manolo;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:59:14
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:45:41
NARA Description:
On June 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Robert J. Brown, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, Leonard Garment, Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:54 am to 11:38 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 529-021 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 529-21
Date: June 28, 1971
Time: 10:54 am - 11:38 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Vernon E. Jordan Jr., Robert J. Brown, John D. Ehrlichman, George P.
Shultz, and Leonard Garment; Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins was present at the beginning of the
meeting.
Greetings
General conversation
Jordan’s position
-Activity
National Urban League
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Upcoming convention
-Attendance
-Personnel
-Harold R. Sims
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:54 am.
Refreshments Conv. No. 529-21 (cont.)
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:38 am.
Jordan's background
-Marvin W. Russell
-President and Jordan’s 1956 DePauw University meeting
-Eugene S. Pullian
-Russell J. Humbolt [?]
-Work
-Family
-Work
-Early experience
-DePauw University
-Experiences
-Responsibilities
-Benefits
-Humbolt [?]
-Pullian
-Resignation from DePauw University Board of Trustees
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:54 am.
Presentation to President
-Photograph
-1956 President and Jordan meeting [?]
-Description
National Urban League
-Jordan’s leadership
-Timing
-Whitney M. Young, Jr.
-Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
-Mystique
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:35 am.
-Youth
-Death
-Jordan’s leadership
-Youth
-Benefits
-Youth Conv. No. 529-21 (cont.)
-Courage
-Relationship with administration
-Shultz and H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Young
-Administration commitment
-Calls to Ehrlichman and Shultz
-Cooperation
-Contact with President
-Disagreements
-Jordan's address to unknown college
-Money available
-Money cuts for schools
-Programs
-Funds for the Urban League
-Department of Labor
-Other agencies
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Office of Economic Policy
-Department of Defense [DOD]
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] coordination
-Sims
-Credit to administration
-Movement from House of Representatives and Senate
-President's experience
-Jordan's residence
-Funds for Urban League
-Source
-Drug program
-Effect of drug problem
-Veterans
-Youth
-Racial distinction
-Education money
-Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Education programs of Urban League
-Atlanta
-Need for drug program
-Scope of problem
-Public relations
-Achievements of Urban League
-Need to provide service
-Jaffe Conv. No. 529-21 (cont.)
-Urban League role in drug programs
-Public relations
-Urban League mission
-President’s suggestions
-Black Caucus
-Charles B. Rangel
-Domestic problems
-Supply
-Turkey
-France
-Vietnam
-Drug programs
-Appeal to various groups
-Rangel
-President’s suggestions
-Need to broaden scope
-Donald McI. Kendall
-Competition for money
-Urban coalitions
-Obscure sources
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
[NAACP]
-Unknown Atlanta girl
-School paper
-Drug knowledge
-Background
-Drug programs
-Teacher training
-Need for current knowledge
-John Mackey visit
-Responsibility of athletes in education
-Carl M. Yastrzemski
-Jordan’s press conference
-Revenue sharing discussion
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Clarence Coleman
-Edwin L. Harper
-Information session
-Welfare reform
-Administration efforts
-Drawbacks
-Change in approach
-Urban League position Conv. No. 529-21 (cont.)
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Expertise
-Urban League approach
-Goals
-Effect on worker
-Manpower and revenue sharing
-Training benefits
-Link to welfare
-Administration's overall approach to welfare and revenue sharing
-Objectives
-Rise of self-respect
-Incentives
-Sensitivity to citizens
-Urban League
-President’s visit to New York offices
-Emphasis on dignity and self-respect
-Benefits to all races
-Chicanos
-Whites
-Blacks
-Focus on social problems
-Task force approval
-West Virginia
-Mississippi
-Alabama
-Illinois
-Aid to poor
-Message from Washington
-George Bartlett
-Welfare and revenue sharing
-Senate action
-Senate sentiment
-Opposition to social programs
-Need for support in Senate
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Alternative Senate plans
-New York problems
-Inadequacy of present system
-Administration efforts
-Drug, welfare and revenue sharing programs
-Richardson
-James D. Hodgson
-Arthur A. Fletcher Conv. No. 529-21 (cont.)
-Philadelphia program
-Need for specifics
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Urban League opportunities
-New leadership
-Jordan
-Opportunity
-Need for initiatives
-Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt
-Jordan
-Responsibilities to constituents
-Extremes of behavior
-Administration efforts
-Welfare
-Urban problem
-Desegregation
-Basis for relations with Urban League
-Cooperation on drug and revenue sharing
Shultz and Garment left at 11:35 am.
Autograph
Gift presentation
-Jordan
-Martha's Vineyard
-Golf balls
-Kendall
-Paperweight
-Pens
-Jordan’s daughter
-Jordan's secretary
-Jordan's wife
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Football
-Jordan's career
-Size of players
-Mackey
-Melody[?]
-Southern California star
-Kansas City Chiefs
Jordan and Brown left at 11:38 am.
Language of press statement
Ehrlichman left at 11:38 am.