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Start Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1971 12:32 PM

End Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1971 2:07 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Buchanan, Patrick J.White House operatorO'Konski, Alvin E.Sanchez, ManoloWoods, Rose MaryBull, Stephen B.Connally, John B.Ziegler, Ronald L.Shultz, George P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:10:45

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:38:07

530a.mp3

530b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Patrick J. Buchanan, White House operator, Alvin E. O'Konski, Manolo Sanchez, Rose Mary Woods, Stephen B. Bull, John B. Connally, Ronald L. Ziegler, and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:32 am and 10:07 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 530-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 530-3

Date: June 29, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:32 am and 10:07 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     President's previous meeting with Cabinet
          -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Administration's relations with press

[The President talked with Patrick J. Buchanan between 8:42 am and 8:44 am]
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[Conversation No. 530-3A]

[See Conversation No. 6-13]

[One item has been withdrawn]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Assistance for Administration defenders
          -Jack F. Kemp

     Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
          -Walter Sullivan
          -John M. O'Neill
          -Buchanan
          -Charles W. Colson
          -Kemp and McCloskey appearance on "David Frost Show"
                -Laos, Vietnam

[The President talked with the White House operator at 8:45 am]

[Conversation No. 530-3B]

[See Conversation No. 6-14]

[End of telephone conversation]

[The President talked with Buchanan between 8:46 am and 8:47 am]

[Conversation No. 530-3C]

[See Conversation No. 6-15]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Assistance for administration defenders
          -Colson
          -Sullivan
          -McCloskey
          -Kemp
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Kenneth B. Keating
    -Conversation between Haldeman and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
    -Conversation with President, June 28th

Kissinger
     -Backgrounders with press
     -Statements to President and Haldeman
     -Backgrounders                                         Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
           -President’s instruction

Haldeman's schedule
     -White House staff meeting
          -Contacts with press
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
               -Leaks

President's previous Cabinet meeting
     -Contacts with press
            -Interdepartmental rivalries
            -Foreign Service
                  -William P. Rogers
            -Melvin R. Laird
     -Possible effect

Kissinger
     -Backgrounders
          -Haig
               -Order from the President

Pentagon Papers
     -Daniel Ellsberg case
          -President's conversation with Charles Colson
          -Richard A. Moore's opinion
          -Alger Hiss case
          -Theft
          -Prospects for conviction
          -Martyrdom
                -Moore's opinion
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Ambassadorial appointments
    -Haldeman’s forthcoming conversation with Peter M. Flanigan
         -Marshall Green
               -Japan
               -Kissinger, Haig

State Department
      -Southeast Asia Bureau                                   Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)

Ambassadorial appointments
    -William Porter
    -Green
          -Thailand

President's previous meeting with Cabinet
     -Contacts with press
            -Disloyalty
            -Robert H. Finch
            -Donald H. Rumsfeld

White House social affairs
     -Forthcoming lunch for Juan Velasco
          -Alexander P. Butterfield
          -Rose Mary Woods
     -Dinners
          -Anastasio D. Somoza
          -Willy Brandt
          -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
          -Velasco lunch
          -Chowder and Marching Society
          -Velasco lunch
          -Gideon's Army
          -Guest lists
                 -Woods, Butterfield
          -Finance dinners
          -Flanigan, Maurice H. Stans
     -Butterfield and Woods
     -Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Butterfield and Woods
          -Guest lists
                 -Politics
                 -Bipartisanship
                 -Clark MacGregor
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                     -Kissinger
                     -Helmut (“Hal”) Sonnenfeldt
                     -Kissinger
                     -Ehrlichman
                           -Wife
                     -Rank of attendees
                     -Staff
                                                                     Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
     Pentagon Papers
          -Ellsberg
                -Need to prosecute
                -Moore’s view
                -Timing of trial
                -Martyrdom
                -Theft and espionage
                -Public statements
                -Need to prosecute
                     -Colson
                -Popular opinion
                -Background
                -View of Vietnam War
                     -President’s view

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 8:47 am and
9:03 am]

[Conversation No. 530-3D]

[See Conversation No. 6-16]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Legislation

     Vote in House of Representatives

     MacGregor

     Bryce N. Harlow

     William E. Timmons
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     Harlow

[The President talked with Congressman Alvin E. O'Konski between 9:03 am and 9:06 am]

[Conversation No. 530-3E]

[See Conversation No. 6-17]
                                                                   Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
An unknown person [Manolo Sanchez?] entered at an unknown time after 9:03 am.

The unknown person [Sanchez?] left at an unknown time before 9:06 am.

[End of telephone conversation]

     O'Konski
         -Motion concerning Vietnam
         -Nixon Doctrine
         -Previous conversation with President
         -Motion provisions

[The President talked with the White House operator at 9:07 am]

[Conversation No. 530-3F]

[See Conversation No. 6-18]

[End of telephone conversation]

     White House personnel
          -Discipline

[The President talked with Rose Mary Woods between 9:08 am and 9:09 am]

[Conversation No. 530-3G]

[See Conversation No. 6-19]

[End of telephone conversation]

     President's schedule
          -Church services
                 -Democrats
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                -Charles H. Percy
          -Politics

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:09 am.

     John B. Connally's location

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:12 am.                             Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)

     President's schedule
          -Haldeman's efforts

Connally and Ziegler entered at 9:12 am.

     Connally's statement

     National Economy
          -Economic advisors
               -Previous Quadriad meeting
               -Possible statement to press
               -Ziegler's backgrounders
                     -Herbert G. Klein
                     -Content of statement
                           -Duty of the Secretary of the Treasury
                                 -Sources of advice
                                      -George P. Shultz
                                      -Cabinet officers
                           -Connally’s view
                     -Release of statement
                           -Timing
                           -Clarity
                     -Cabinet Committee on economic policy
                           -Secretary of the Treasury as presiding officer in absence of
                                 President
                     -Duties of the Vice President
                     -Duties of Secretary of Treasury
                     -Meeting at Camp David
          -Connally's forthcoming statement
               -Monetary and fiscal stimuli
               -Retail sales
               -Home sales
               -Unemployment
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            -Vietnam veterans
            -Defense jobs
            -Wage and Price Review Board
      -Wage and price controls
      -Taxes
      -Government spending
      -President's veto message
            -Government spending                      Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
            -Inflation
            -Wage and Price Review Board
      -Wage and price controls
      -President's activities
            -Labor and management relations
            -Government salaries
      -President's economic policy
            -Effectiveness
            -Impact on inflation
            -Unemployment
            -Growth of Gross National Product [GNP]
-Housing
-Industrial production
-Personal income
-Retail sales
-Unemployment
      -Rate of employment
      -Four percent level
            -Korean War, Vietnam War
      -Married men
            -Previous recessions
                  -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                  -John F. Kennedy
-Interest rates
-Plant and equipment
-Inventories
-Retail sales
-Personal income
-Public confidence in President's policy
      -Manifestations
-Ziegler's forthcoming statement
      -Connally
            -Role with administration
-Arthur F. Burns
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               -Speech at Pepperdine University
               -Statement concerning investment tax credits
               -Concern about credibility
               -Interest rates
               -Actions on money supply
               -Responsibility
                      -Ziegler's forthcoming statement
               -Relations with administration                     Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
               -Conversation with Connally
                      -Divided loyalty
               -Ethnic background
               -Relations with administration
           -Connally's forthcoming statement
               -Taxes
               -Wage and Price Review Board
               -Wage and price controls
               -Government spending
           -Wages and prices
               -Construction industry
               -President's exercise of authority
               -Establishment of Wage and Price Board
                      -Past failures
               -Future of economy
                      -Stock market
                            -Increase
               -Public service jobs

Connally and Ziegler left at 9:41 am.

     Connally
         -Abilities

     National economy
          -Status
          -Retail sales
          -Foreign policy announcements
                -Kissinger
                -People’s Republic of China [PRC], Soviet Union

     White House personnel
          -Focus
               -White House staff, Cabinet
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                  -Raymond K. Price, Jr., Moore
                  -Buchanan
              -Edmund S. Muskie
                  -Compared with President


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                                                           Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
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              -Ehrlichman
                    -Environment
              -Automobile safety
              -Consumerism
              -Blacks
                    -Death of girl in Mississippi
                    -Deaths of two policemen in New York City
                    -Pressure from press

    President's previous meeting with Cabinet
         -George W. Romney
         -Clifford M. Hardin
         -Elliot L. Richardson
         -Finch, Rumsfeld

    Public relations
         -Tricia Nixon Cox's wedding
                -Claude O. Robinson
                -Value
         -Issue of morality
         -President's conversation with Mrs. Glenn R. Davis
                -Davis’ children
                -President's children
                -Children of celebrities
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                       -Communist and atheist values of education
           -White House staff
                 -Price
                 -Buchanan
                 -William L. Safire
                 -Moore
                 -John A. Scali
                 -Colson                                            Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
                 -Finch
                 -Rumsfeld
           -Staff suggestions, intuition
                 -Elmer H. Bobst's statement
           -Background of candidates

Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:41 am.

     Shultz
          -Meeting with the President

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:57 am.

     Personnel management
          -Cabinet
               -Perquisites
               -Image of President
               -Camp David
               -Rumsfeld's theory
          -White House staff

     Administration contacts with press
         Haldeman efforts
               -Communication with White House staff
         -President's image
               -Price's preparation of radio talks
               -Haldeman's schedule

The President left at an unknown time after 9:41 am.

The President entered at an unknown time before 9:57 am.

Shultz entered at 9:57 am.
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     National Commission on Productivity
          -President's schedule
                -Length
          -Members
                -Leonard Woodcock
                -George Meany
                -I[lworth] W. Abel
                -Machinist representative                              Conv. No. 530-3 (cont.)
                -Business representatives
          -President's possible comments
                -Importance of Commission’s efforts
          -Meeting agenda
          -Possible conference in autumn
          -President's possible comments
          -Previous meetings
          -Peter G. Peterson's previous presentation
          -President's possible comments
          -President's schedule
          -Commission’s meeting schedule

     Education appropriation
         -Conference committee result
               -Excess over budget
                    -Impact aid
                    -Public housing
               -Frank T. Bow
         -Possible veto
               -Prospects

The President, et al. left at 10:07 am.