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Start Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1971 6:31 PM

End Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1971 7:07 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryGarment, LeonardBull, Stephen B.White House operatorDavies, John S.Frink, CynthiaButterfield, Alexander P.Kissinger, Henry A.Mitchell, John N.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:04:36

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:39:06

532a.mp3

532b.mp3

532c.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Leonard Garment, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, John S. Davies, Cynthia Frink, Alexander P. Butterfield, Henry A. Kissinger, and John N. Mitchell met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:31 pm to 3:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 532-023 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 532-23

Date: June 30, 1971
Time: 2:31 pm - 3:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

     Greetings

[The President talked with Leonard Garment between 2:32 pm and 2:36 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23A]

[See Conversation No. 6-51]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Reception for Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
         -Recognition of Blount and others
                -Undersecretaries

Stephen B. Bull entered at unknown time after 2:36 pm.

     Vote of unknown person on Mansfield amendment
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Bull left at an unknown time before 2:50 pm.

     President’s schedule
          -Event
                -Time

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 2:36 pm and
2:40 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23B]

[See Conversation No. 6-52]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Seating at entertainment event
          -Ticket procedures

Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:36 pm.

     Vote of unknown person on Mansfield amendment

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:50 pm.

[The President talked with Special Assistant John S. Davies at an unknown time between 2:36
pm and 2:40 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23C]

[See Conversation No. 6-53]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Ongoing entertainment

[The President talked with Cynthia Frink between 2:43 pm and 2:44 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23D]

[See Conversation No. 6-54]

[End of telephone conversation]
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     Frink
             -Principles
             -Content of valedictory speech

     College experience

                                                          Conv. No. 532-23 (cont.)
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     [Ongoing entertainment]

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 2:44 pm.

     Schedule
          -Phone calls
               -Raymond K. Price, Jr.

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 3:11 pm.

     Social gathering
          -Potter Stewart
          -John M. Harlan

     Woods’ schedule

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 2:44 pm and
2:52 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23E]

[See Conversation No. 6-55]
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[End of telephone conversation]

     Marjorie P. Acker

     Woods’ schedule

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 2:53 pm.                              Conv. No. 532-23 (cont.)

     Pentagon Papers
          -Supreme Court ruling
               -Implications

Woods left at 2:53 pm.

          -Charles M. Cooke, Jr. [?]
               -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
               -Elliot L. Richardson, Melvin R. Laird

[The President talked with the White House operator at 2:53 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23F]

[See Conversation No. 6-56]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Pentagon Papers
          -Unknown person
          -Kissinger discussion with unknown person
          -Daniel Ellsberg
               -Cooke [?]
          -Charles McC. Mathias, Jr. file
               -Content
                     -Scope
                     -William P. Rogers’ knowledge
               -Laird
                     -Investigative branch
               -National Security Council [NSC] documents
               -Cambodia documents
          -Declassification of documents
               -Public perception of administration
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               -Television appearance by President
                     -Changes
               -Effect on government
               -Revelation of administration peace efforts
                     -Effect
                          -People’s Republic of China [PRC] and Vietnam initiatives
          -Supreme Court actions
          -1969 documents                                          Conv. No. 532-23 (cont.)
               -Scope
          -Cooke [?]
               -Xeroxing efforts
               -Richardson

[Davies talked with the President between 2:52 pm and 2:53 pm]

[Conversation No. 532-23G]

[See Conversation No. 6-57]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations
           -"Safeguard" sites
                -Gerard C. Smith's recommendation
                -Moscow coverage
                -Smith
                -Discipline factor
                -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer's request
           -Offensive weapons
                -Inter-continental Ballistic Missile [ICBM], Submarine-launched Ballistic
                      Missile [SLBM] limits
                      -Smith
                      -Kissinger, Anatoliy F. Dobrynin contact
           -Length of agreement
                -Rogers[?]
                -Tie to offensive pact
                -Withdrawal rights
                -Smith

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:53 pm.

     Unintelligible
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Bull left at an unknown time before 2:55 pm.

     Timing of US responses

John N. Mitchell entered at 2:55 pm.

     Pentagon Papers                                            Conv. No. 532-23 (cont.)
          -Supreme Court decision
                -Vote
                      -Harlan, Stewart
                           -Social activities
                      -Byron R. White
                           -Wiretaps
                -Impact
                      -Release of 47 volumes of documents
                           -Precedent
                      -SALT discussions
          -Pursuit of Ellsberg case
                -Focus on national security
                      -Complaint composition
                           -Alger Hiss precedent
          -Ellsberg


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          -Information
          -Use of press
          -Leaks
                -Effect
          -Laird's call to Kissinger
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     -Mathias file of documents
-Mathias’ call to Mitchell
     -Relation of file to Ellsberg case
-Mathias’ file
     -Source
           -Ellsberg
     -Content
     -Laird's call to Kissinger                           Conv. No. 532-23 (cont.)
           -Mathias’ call to Laird
                 -Source of Mathias file
                       -Cooke
                       -Richardson
     -Kissinger's recollections of Cooke
     -Laird's view of file's content
           -Rogers’ memoranda to President
                 -Kissinger's replies
-Supreme Court action
     -Support for administration
           -Opinion writing
           -Harlan
           -Warren E. Burger
           -Harry A. Blackmun
           -Harlan
                 -Pressure of decision
           -White
           -Harlan, Stewart
           -White
           -Hugo L. Black, William O. Douglas contribution to Court
     -J. Edgar Hoover
     -Impact on permissiveness
           -Supreme Court
     -Contribution to Democrats
     -Future of leaks
     -Ellsberg indictment
-New classification system
     -Restriction of secret material
     -Release of material to bureaucracy
           -McGeorge Bundy comparison
     -Memoranda from Kissinger to the President
           -Exposure to others
                 -Cabinet members
                 -Mitchell
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                           -Rogers
                           -Laird
                -Conversations with President
                -Federal employees
                      -Clearances
                -Appeal to Congress
           -Legal precedents
                -Recent decisions                                Conv. No. 532-23 (cont.)
                      -Effect on publication of materials

Kissinger and Mitchell left at 3:07 pm.