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Start Date: 22-Jul-1971 10:01 AM

End Date: 22-Jul-1971 10:51 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Finch, Robert H.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:30:13

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:17:30

542a.mp3

542b.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Robert H. Finch met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:01 am to 10:51 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 542-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 542-3

Date: July 22, 1971
Time: 10:01 am - 10:51 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Robert H. Finch.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 6m 11s ]


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     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Trip to Africa
                -Comment about Blacks
                     -Context of remarks
                           -Henry A. Kissinger
                           -Contacts with press
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         -Plans for the future

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[Duration: 1m 10s ]


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    People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
         -Ronald W. Reagan’s support
               -John G. Schmitz
                     -John Birch Society
               -Henry Salvatori’s conversation with Finch
               -George A. Murphy
                     -Taiwan, Republic of China [ROC]
                     -Senate testimony
                          -John G. Tower
               -Salvatori
               -Holmes P. Tuttle, Justin W. Dart
               -Asa V. Call
                     -Health
                     -Rose Mary Woods
         -Appeal to youth
               -Staff meeting
               -Finch's conversation with Daniel P. Moynihan
               -College students
                     -Support for the President
         -Congress
         -The general public's support for the President
               -The President's attendance at baseball game, July 20, 1971
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 6m 33s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4                                           Conv. No. 542-3 (cont.)

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    Foreign policy accomplishments
         -PRC initiative
              -US-PRC summit
         -Possible US-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] summit
         -Efforts to end the Vietnam war

    The economy
         -Unemployment
              -California, Michigan
         -Retail sales
              -Edward W. Carter’s comments
         -Savings

    Issues
         -PRC initiative
              -Charles W. Colson
         -The Vietnam war and Pentagon Papers case
              -Effect of issue on the Democrats
                    -Hubert H. Humphrey, Edmund S. Muskie
                    -John F. Kennedy
                          -Dean G. Acheson
                    -Importance of encouraging disunity
                          -Shift of focus from the economy
                                -Unemployment
                                      -Compared to 1970
                                      -Decrease
                                            -Michigan survey
                    -Pentagon Papers
         -Foreign policy issues
              -Source of strength for the President
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                    -PRC, Vietnam

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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[Duration: 2m 32s ]
                                                                  Conv. No. 542-3 (cont.)

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    Finch
         -Motion picture industry
               -Britain
               -Peter G. Peterson
               -Duties in job
         -Ambassadorial rank, Cabinet rank
         -Taft Schreiber
         -Enhancement of image
         -Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
               -Donald Rumsfeld
               -George A. Lincoln's job as Director
                     -Responsibilities
                           -Emergencies
                           -Stockpiling
               -Rumsfeld
         -Counsellor to the President job
               -Perceptions of stature
                     -Comparison to image of the Vice President
         -Image
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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[Duration: 1m 43s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6                                           Conv. No. 542-3 (cont.)

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         -OEP
                -Finch
                -Value as base of operation
                     -Comparison to Republican National Committee [RNC]
                     -Partisan organization

    Rumsfeld
        -Possible plans
        -Illinois option
        -Visibility compared to Finch
              -Speeches

    Finch’s responsibilities
         -Relief efforts for Peru, Pakistan
         -Cabinet Committee on Opportunities for the Spanish-speaking
         -Bicentennial Commission duties
               -David J. Mahoney
         -Possible Ambassadorship to Mexico
               -Carol C. Finch
               -Duration
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[Duration: 39s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13                                         Conv. No. 542-3 (cont.)

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    Rumsfeld
        -Possible North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] assignment
             -Robert F. Ellsworth
             -Ambassadorial post
                   -Belgium
                   -Japan


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[Duration: 4m 35s ]


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    Finch
         -Discussion of job options with Carol Finch
         -Ambassadorship ro Mexico
         -Cabinet
         -OEP directorship
              -Salary
              -Compared to Cabinet rank
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                 -National Security Council [NSC]
                 -Anachronistic nature of job
                 -NSC
                 -Abolition
                      -Staff


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                                                           Conv. No. 542-3 (cont.)

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[Duration: 1m 35s ]


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     Job assignments
          -Rumsfeld
               -OEP
               -NATO post
               -Abilities
                     -Language
                     -Knowledge
                          -Travel as a Congressman
                     -Spokesperson
          -Finch
               -Carol Finch
               -OEP
               -Ambassadorship to Mexico

Finch left at 10:51 am.
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