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Conversation: 551-004

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Start Date: 29-Jul-1971 11:05 AM

End Date: 29-Jul-1971 11:48 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Teague, Charles M.Teague, Olin E.Shultz, George P.Johnson, Donald E.MacGregor, ClarkWhite House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:23:15

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:06:44

551a.mp3

551b.mp3

551c.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles M. Teague, Olin E. Teague, George P. Shultz, Donald E. Johnson, Clark MacGregor, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:05 am to 11:48 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 551-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 551-4

Date: July 29, 1971
Time: 11:05 am - 11:48 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles M. Teague, Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague, George P. Shultz, Donald
E. Johnson, and Clark MacGregor; the White House photographer was present at the beginning
of the meeting.

     Greetings

     General conversation
         -Busing
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/08)




Veterans
     -World War I
           -Age of average veteran
     -The American Legion
           -1946 recollection
           -Louis Johnson
     -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]                     Conv. No. 551-3 (cont.)
           -Former Commander
                -Wife
           -Reminiscences
     -American Legion
           -Nixon's term as Congressman
     -Glenn R. Davis
     -Chowder and Marching Club
           -Donald Jackson, Davis
     -Kennedy half-dollar
     -[Unknown name]
     -Constituency
     -Issues
           -Shultz, MacGregor
           -Donald Johnson
           -Vietnam War
           -Education benefits
           -Pension compensation
                -Increase
           -Veterans Administration [VA] hospitals
                -Prescott, Arizona
                -New York Hospital
                -Prescott, Arizona
                -Renovation
                -Staff-patient ratio
                -Quality of care
                -Revenue Control Act of 1968
                -Number, location
                -Fort Worth hospital
                -Funding
                      -Distribution
                            -Staffing
                            -New facilities
                -Renovation of existing facilities
                -Southern California
                                   18

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/08)



            -Staffing
                  -H. R. 37
            -The Bronx
            -Service-connected health problems
            -Vietnam veterans
            -Non-service-related health problems
                  -Number
                        -Effect on patient load              Conv. No. 551-4 (cont.)
-World War I, World War II, Vietnam veterans
     -Projections
            -Hospital program
                  -Long term outlook
                  -Action
            -Personnel
-Perception of treatment
     -Pentagon Papers case
-Vietnam-era servicemen
     -Perceptions
            -Drug abuse
            -Compared to anti-war protesters
-US military presence abroad
-Public attitude
     -Vietnam veterans compared to World War II veterans
-Proposed treatment
     -Jobs program
     -Health care
            -Long term program
            -World War II veterans
-Vietnam veterans
     -Public attitude
            -The President’s conversation with [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Budget considerations
-Health care
     -Projections
            -World War I, World War II, Vietnam veterans
            -Study
            -Facilities
     -VA’s role
     -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
            -Elliot L. Richardson
            -Dr. Merlin K. Duval
                  -Coordination
                                   19

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/08)



     -Loan program
           -Direct loans
                 -Legislation pending
     -Facilities
     -Drug abuse issue
           -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
-VA
-Coordination of effort                                     Conv. No. 551-4 (cont.)
      -Jaffe's role
-Facilities
      -Building of new facilities
      -Use of existing facilities
-Outpatient services
      -Drug abuse
            -Heroin
                   -Methadone program
                   -Statistics on addiction
                         -Jaffe's study
            -Treatment
                   -Development of new methods of treatment
                         -Benefit to others
                                -General application
-Fort Worth facility
-Coordination
      -Jaffe, DuVal
-Drug abuse treatment
      -Arizona facility
-DuVal
-Vietnam, West Germany
-Re-entry of Vietnam veterans into labor market
      -Former meeting with Shultz, James D. Hodgson
      -Compared to World War II, Korean War
-Education
-Vietnam War
      -Current situation
      -Re-entry of veterans into civilian life
            -Southern California program
      -Forthcoming settlement of war
-Congress
      -Teague
      -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                                             20

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/08)



     Gifts

Charles M. Teague et al. left at 11:48 am.




                                                                Conversation
                                                                Conv. No. 551-4
                                                                             No.(cont.)
                                                                                 551-5

Date: July 29, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:48 am and 11:50 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.
     Schedule
          -Ambassador Agha Hilaly
          -Martin C. (“Marty”) Anderson
               -John D. Ehrlichman’s schedule

Bull left at 11:50 am.