Conversation 555-010

TapeTape 555StartThursday, August 5, 1971 at 4:35 PMEndThursday, August 5, 1971 at 5:16 PMTape start time03:37:56Tape end time04:17:42ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Buckley, James L.;  Mitchell, John N.;  White House photographerRecording deviceOval Office

On August 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, James L. Buckley, John N. Mitchell, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:35 pm to 5:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 555-010 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 555-10

Date: August 5, 1971
Time: 4:35 pm - 5:16 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with James L. Buckley and John N. Mitchell; the White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     President's schedule
          -President's meeting with business group
                 -Consumers

     Congressional relations
         -Jacob K. Javits
         -William Proxmire
         -Buckley

     US-People’s Republic of China [PRC] relations
         -President's appreciation for Buckley's comments
         -Experience of previous Presidents
               -John F. Kennedy
                     -Vienna
               -Lyndon B. Johnson
                     -Glassboro
               -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                     -Camp David
         -Expectations
         -Developments
               -Henry A. Kissinger
         -President’s recent press conference
               -Conditions
         -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
               -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                     -Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
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                -Offensive weapons
Berlin
     -Willy Brandt
     -Egon Bahr
     -Treaty

US-PRC relations
    -Taiwan
    -Vietnam
          -Detente
                -USSR
                -Japan
    -USSR
    -Japan
    -PRC
    -Southeast Asia
          -Thailand
    -India
    -Negotiations
          -Mutual interests
          -PRC
                -Political system
          -Detente
                -USSR
          -Process
          -Effect of current developments
                -Taiwan
    -Political support
          -Cambodia
          -Laos
          -Idealogies
          -Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
          -Buckley’s position
                -Conservatives
                      -Trip to Watts [?]
    -William P. Rogers
          -Kissinger
          -Location

National defense
     -ABM
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     -Vote
          -Spiro T. Agnew
          -SALT
-Development of offensive weapons
     -Robert S. McNamara
                -Eisenhower Administration
                      -Nuclear submarines
                           -Polaris
                      -Minuteman
-USSR
     -SALT
-Spending
-Republican senators
-Budget
-Melvin R. Laird
-Mitchell
     -National Security Council [NSC]
-Laird
     -Figures
-Naval Forces
     -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
          -Sixth Fleet
          -USSR ships compared to US ships
-Nuclear weapons
     -Balance
          -USSR
          -US
                -Offensive, defensive weapons or control
     -USSR
-Congressional action
-1972 campaign issue
     -Jackson
     -Edmund S. Muskie
     -Hubert H. Humphrey
     -Edward M. Kennedy
     -Birch Bayh
     -Fred R. Harris
     -The President’s policy
-USSR
     -US
          -Air defense
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                  -Missile and naval inferiority
      -Support for the President
           -Congress
           -Hearst papers
           -Chicago Tribune
           -Time
           -Newsweek
           -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
           -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
           -American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
                  -President’s support for defense
                        -ABM
                  -Budget cuts
                        -Military view
                        -President’s use of television
                  -Perception of President’s move to left
      -As political issue
           -Conservative critics
           -Buckley's view
                  -William F. Buckley
           -ABM
                  -Bargaining chip
                  -Offensive weapons
           -Press release
                  -US Mediterranean forces
                        -Compared to USSR
           -Kissinger briefing
                  -Possible participants
                        -Rogers
                        -William A. Rusher
                        -Frank S. Meyer
                        -[David J., Jr.?] Mahoney
                        -New York Times

PRC
      -Conservative support
           -James B. ("Scotty") Reston

National defense
     -Laird
     -Rogers
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     -Congress
          -John G. Tower
     -Possible briefing
          -President's schedule
          -Rogers and Kissinger
     -Budget
          -Salaries
          -Hardware
     -Volunteer army
          -Gates Report
          -Republican platform
          -Budget
                -Hardware spending
          -Military bureaucracy
                -Reform
          -Employment
                -Military bases

Economy
    -Employment
         -Bill
    -Spending
         -Mortgage rates
               -Federal Housing Administration [FHA]
               -Maintaining current rates
                     -Subsidies
         -Research and development
         -Space program
         -Desalinization
         -Breeder reactor
         -Defense
               -Domestic Council
                     -Poll
                           -Space program
                                -Public relations
         -Priorities
               -Democrats
         -Defense

National defense
     -SALT
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              -USSR
                     -SS-9's
                     -ABM
              -Consequence of failure
                     -Arms buildup
                           -President’s request
         -Budget
              -Navy
                     -Modernization
              -Air defense
              -Military industrial complex
         -Effect on foreign policy
              -Israel
         -Jordanian crisis
              -Sixth Fleet
                     -Israel
                           -Golan Heights
                                 -USSR intervention
                                      -Syria
              -Greece
                     -Bases
              -Airlift
                     -Analogy to Lebanon crisis, 1958
                     - From Germany to Turkey
         -Naval power
              -Foreign policy
                     -Adm. Albert Thayer Mahan
              -Other forces
              -USSR
                     -Indian Ocean
              -Sixth Fleet
         -Middle East
              -Israel
                     -USSR


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               -USSR
                     -Destroyers
                     -Cruisers
                     -Guidance systems
         -Message for conservatives
               -ABM
         -Congress
               -Jackson
                     -Voting record
                          -ABM
                          -Offensive weapons
                          -Navy
                          -Law and order
                                -President
                                      -US flag pin
               -George C. Wallace
         -As issue in South
         -Message for conservatives
               -President’s support for defense
                     -US
                          -Compared to USSR
               -Public and Congressional support
                     -Jewish constituency
         -Possible briefing

    Martha (Beall) Mitchell
         -Ghettos

    Presentation of gifts by President
         -Cufflinks
         -Paperweight
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Buckley and Mitchell left at 5:16 pm.