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Start Date: 11-Aug-1971 12:59 PM

End Date: 11-Aug-1971 1:43 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Colson, Charles W.Sanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Woods, Rose Mary

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:52:00

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:36:47

561a.mp3

561b.mp3

561c.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Charles W. Colson, Manolo Sanchez, Stephen B. Bull, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:59 pm to 1:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 561-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 561-12

Date: August 11, 1971
Time: 12:59 pm - 1:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Busing
          -President's policy
                -Ziegler’s recent press conference
                      -United Press International [UPI] story
                            -President’s directive
                                  -Desegregation
                                  -Dual school system
                                  -Federal compliance

     Declassification order
          -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Historical information
                -World War II
                -Korean War
                -Cuba
                -Lebanon
          -Classification authority
                -Limitation
                      -Public right to know
                      -Protection of classified information
          -Ehrlichman's forthcoming press briefing
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


                -Timing

Ziegler left and Charles W. Colson entered at 1:01 pm.

     National security
          -President's previous conversation with Ehrlichman
                -New York Times article
                -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                      -Negotiations

     Pentagon Papers
          -Democrats' reaction
          -Possible Congressional hearings
                -Democrats
                -Republicans
                      -October 3, 1971 election in Vietnam
                            -Administration's position
                                 -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Timing
                -Michael J. Mansfield, J. William Fulbright
                -Possible administration action
                      -Columnists
                            -Richard L. Wilson
                            -Hawks
                                 -David Lawrence, Joseph W. Alsop, William S. White
                -Democrats
          -Unknown man
                -Alger Hiss case
                -Activities
                -Vietnamese elections
          -Democrats
          -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh's efforts
          -Possible Congressional hearings
                -W. Averell Harriman
                      -Ngo Dinh Diem
                -Overthrow of Diem
                -F. Edward Hébert's position
                      -Daniel Ellsberg
          -Unknown man's investigation
          -Liberals
                -In-fighting
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


                 -New Yorker magazine
                      -John F. Kennedy's intellectuals
                            -McGeorge Bundy
                 -Comparison to fight between Communists and Socialists
                 -Public reaction
                      -Forthcoming election
                 -Eugene J. McCarthy
                      -1968 campaign

Congress
    -Recess

Colson's activities
     -Cabinet
           -Lull

Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
    -Speech
          -August 10, 1971
          -Liberal Democrats
                -Effect on working people
          -Reaction
          -Location
                -New York City
                -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organization
                      [AFL-CIO]
          -Reaction
          -Impact on the Administration
          -Raymond R. Corbett
    -Administration’s view
    -Speech
          -Liberal Democrats
          -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
          -Intellectuals
                -New left
                      -Views
                           -Working people
                           -Timing

National economy
     -Fact sheet
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


-Public opinion
      -Analogy
            -Laos
                  -Casualties
                  -Timing
-Economic indicators
      -Retail sales
            -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
            -Figures
                  -July 1971
                  -George P. Shultz
                  -Automobiles
                  -June compared to July
-Public malaise
      -Media
      -Democrats
      -Republicans
      -Transience
-President's foreign policy activism
-Businessmen's views
      -Profits and sales
-Statistics
      -Unemployment
            -Polls
      -Commerce Department's forthcoming survey
            -Maurice H. Stans
            -Businessmen
-International monetary situation
-August
      -International monetary situation
      -Vacations
      -Television ratings
-President's forthcoming program
      -Timing
            -Stock market
            -Cabinet's possible efforts
                  -Colson’s conversation with John B. Connally
                  -Stans
                  -James D. Hodgson
            -Labor contracts
                  -Coal miners
                                            40

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


                           -Longshoremen
                                -Hodgson
            -Unemployment
                 -Ehrlichman
                 -Summer 1971
                 -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] report
                 -Unknown person
                 -American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
                 -Breadwinners
            -Louis Harris polls
                 -Accuracy
                       -Public psychology
                 -Timing
                       -Congress
                 -Procedures

    Polls
            -Harris, George H. Gallup
                 -President's public reception
                       -Ohio, Iowa, Alabama, Oklahoma, New Hampshire, Maine


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    George Meany
        -Treatment by administration
             -Ziegler's press briefing
             -Personal greeting
             -Public events
        -Jackson
        -Edmund S. Muskie
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


                -Unknown person’s call to Colson
                    -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
           -Jackson

Manolo Sanchez and Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:01 pm.

     Briefcase

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:30 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Kissinger
          -George P. Shultz
          -Peter G. Peterson
                -Haldeman
          -Executive Office Building [EOB]

Bull left at 1:30 pm.

Haldeman and Rose Mary Woods entered at 1:30 pm.

     Book by [Dorothy Sayre]
         -Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
         -Religious
               -Print date
         -Bookbinder
               -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
         -Harcourt Brace
         -Norman Vincent Peale
         -Letter

     President's previous visit to Indiana
          -Possible loss of notes
                 -Secret Service
                 -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                 -American Legion newspaper story
                 -Diary
                 -Schedule cards
                 -Location
                       -Hannah Milhous Nixon’s home
                 -Article
                                              42

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


                   -John F. Kennedy
                   -PRC
                   -Unknown man

Woods left at 1:36 pm.

     Briefcase
          -Notes

     Jackson speech

     Meany
         -PRC policy

     Harris poll

     President's public reception around nation
          -New Hampshire and Maine

     President’s schedule
          -Peterson
                -President's conversation with Bull
                      -International monetary situation

     National economy
          -Textiles
                -Peterson
                -President's memo
                      -Peter M. Flanigan
                      -Alexander P. Butterfield
                -President's schedule
                      -Possible meeting with Peterson
                -Peterson’s possible conversation with Flanigan
                -Possible import quota
                -Industry
                      -Quota bill
                -Flanigan
                      -Memorandum
                      -Possible conversation with Peterson
                -President's schedule
                      -Peterson
                                             43

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 561-12 (cont.)


                      -Shultz

     Mrs. Matak
          -Forthcoming tea with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon, August 11, 1971
               -Presidential gifts
                     -Cufflinks
                     -Compacts

     National economy
          -Unemployment figures

     Ehrlichman

The President, Colson and Haldeman left at 1:43 pm.