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Start Date: 4-Sep-1971 10:47 AM

End Date: 4-Sep-1971 11:14 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Shultz, George P.Bull, Stephen B.Weber, Arnold R.Lincoln, George A. (Gen.)McCracken, Paul W.White House photographerNixon, Richard M. (President)Shultz, George P.Bull, Stephen B.Weber, Arnold R.Lincoln, George A. (Gen.)McCracken, Paul W.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:58:02

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:25:03

567a.mp3

567b.mp3

567c.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, Stephen B. Bull, Arnold R. Weber, Gen. George A. Lincoln, Paul W. McCracken, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:47 am to 11:14 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 567-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 567-10

Date: September 4, 1971
Time: 10:47 am - 11:14 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz, Stephen B. Bull, Arnold R. Weber, Gen. George A.
Lincoln and Paul W. McCracken; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of
the meeting.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 567-9 (cont.)



     Greetings

     Press photograph
           -Seating of group
                 -McCracken
                      -Position
                 -Shultz
                 -Lincoln

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Carlos Sanz de Santamaria
               -Effect and timing of surcharge action on Latin America

     The economy
          -Wage and price freeze
              -Work
              -John B. Connally
              -Shultz
              -The White House staff
                    -Charles W. Colson
              -The President's conversation with Clifford M. Hardin
                    -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
                          -Weber
                               -Captain Kangaroo description

Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 10:47 am.

     Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

     [Photograph session]

Bull, photographer and press left at an unknown time before 11:24 am.

     The economy
          -Headline news stories
               -Wage and price freeze
                     -Implementation
                          -Civil servants
               -Work
               -Public support
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. 10/06)
                                                     Conv. No. 567-10 (cont.)


            -Governors
                  -Preston Smith of Texas
            -Labor leaders
                  -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
            -Joseph L. Alioto
-Effect of action
      -Teachers
            -Cost of living pay raise
                  -Dayton, Ohio
                  -Illinois union
                  -Richard B. Ogilvie
                        -California teachers union
                              -Organizing effort
      -Union leader's jailing
      -Ogilvie
-Policies
      -Consistency
            -Wage increases
                  -Ceilings
      -Guidelines
            -Wage and price freeze
      -Recent wholesale price figures
      -Problems
      -Alternatives
      -Bureaucracy
      -Need for strong action
-Wage and price freeze
      - Bubble
      -Duration
            -Rules and regulations
                  -Establishment
                        -Timing
            -Measuring effectiveness
      -Public support
            -Necessity
      -Wage issues in professions
            -Teachers
            -Football salary negotiations
                  -Contracts
                  -Joe [William] Namath
                  -Waivers
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 567-10 (cont.)


                 -Football players during the Korean War
                 -Consistency
                 -Press coverage
           -Baseball
                 -Vida Blue
                       -Automobile
                       -Annual salary
                       -Supplements to salary
                       -Product endorsements and commercials
     -Price control
-Productivity
     -Productivity Commission [National Commission on Productivity]
           -Statement
                 -Phase II
                 -Bargaining
                 -Labor and management cooperation
     -Business
           -General Motors [GM]
                 -American Motors [AMC]
                 -Lynn A. Townsend
                       -Conversation with McCracken
     -Office of Economic Policy [OEP] and COLC staff
           -The President’s appreciation for work on freeze
           -Personnel
                 -Number
                 -OEP
           -Sources of detailed employees
                 -Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
                       -Morale
           -The President's experiences at Office of Price Administration [OPA]
                 during World War II
                 -Thomas I. Emerson, David Capers
                 -Work
                       -Tire rationing
                 -Feeling of participation in effort
     -Management interns on staff
           -Unknown woman
                 -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
     -Employees
           -IRS
     -Appreciation of work
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 567-10 (cont.)


                   -90-day freeze
                   -Operation of freeze
                   -Expression of appreciation
                   -William L. Safire
                   -Unnamed woman
             -President’s schedule
             -COLC meetings
                   -Schedule
             -Policy meetings
                   -Schedule
                   -Flow of information
             -Freeze
                   -Politics
                   -Popular reaction
                   -Delays
                   -November 13-14 deadline date
                   -Phase II
                   -Economic impact of lifting freeze
                   -November 13-14 deadline date
                   -Communication
                   -Transition
                         -Management of freeze

     Weber
         -Future plans
              -Teaching
                    -University of Chicago
                         -Milton Friedman

     Gifts
             -Golf balls
                  -Tokens of appreciation
                         -Freezing of salaries
                         -Golf

     Shultz’s schedule

Shultz, Weber, Lincoln, and McCracken left at 11:14 am.
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 567-10 (cont.)