Nixon, Haldeman & Colson on Economic Policy and Public Relations

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Yes, at least it makes sense, okay?

Okay.

What we're going to do is we're going to have a meeting.

I didn't want to make it yet, but I thought this was a very good way to do that.

I was wondering on that, though, if it wouldn't be more meaningful, even though it is crowded, to do it at the Capitol for a matter of time, you know, breakfast.

Because those women have meals at the White House all the time.

It isn't a big deal to them.

Well, the thing is, we'll take the big chairs out.

Can you do that?

Can you get the big chairs out of there?

Yeah.

That's what I'd do, is put smaller chairs around.

You want to double that, then?

Sure.

I think just take all the big chairs and start them out.

So far.

I decided also to invite them.

They can sit around on the outside.

Only the... Let's just have the... Well, actually, you've got to have Lincoln and McCracken.

But... And then let's have the assistants.

Don't you agree?

Assistants to the president.

Is that about where you're going to cut off the... Yeah.

The staff.

And what do you do about the client and all that?

Oh, it's easy to do.

I don't want to do it.

quarter and be priced.

Now, the other thing I thought we would have would be the agency heads.

Well, you've got to understand, not commissions, but I'm speaking of the Veterans Administration, which, you know, has a hell of a lot of money involved in here.

Maybe states, maybe GSA,

See, it involves all a bunch of things, Bob.

And it's good to get those people in.

AEC.

I have AEC because Leslie is a friend.

You know what I mean?

Too many?

You'll never get them all in there, William.

You get them in, you've got too much of them, then cut them off.

I'll tell you, just have a cabinet, and let's just have a cabinet without the agency heads.

You can't even have these people's wives, I'll say.

No, I actually plan to have it.

If I have it at a state night, I could have had all of our wives, too.

And you could have a very good crowd.

Well, let's do that.

That's what I was thinking of having a breakfast.

You have to use an e-table or a... No, no round table.

You can't use a round table.

It'll only go to about 45.

45.

You'd have to go to the e-table.

It's not a good thing.

And I suppose the best thing, because you've got some of their bags turned, you'd have to use a round table.

It's better to not just have the cabinet.

We don't have to have the agency.

So just have the cabinet.

Have them in the cabinet room.

And then we can have as many agencies as makes sense, but only cabinet one.

Yeah.

Cabinet-wise, if you can find the agency.

Without one, if anything, you've got to hold it over there.

I'm ready to call the speaker.

Yes.

Okay, yes.

I'm going to move the astronauts to two o'clock.

I don't have a hell of a time.

Well, they're better crowds.

They don't care.

They're distant.

See, they're seeing the aeronautic committee in the morning, and then they'll go to the house.

We've seen them, too.

Well, that's 1230, which is the customary time for State of the Union or anything like that.

They leave at 12 o'clock, do their coaching business, and then they adjourn.

Did you see Albert here?

Albert said, in the note I just got, Albert told McGregor, he said the nation's business comes first.

He had no problem at all with that.

Right.

Did he ask for a meeting?

He just didn't approve of that.

What's that?

It's not a cabinet meeting.

I think that would announce tomorrow.

Yeah, let's wait.

Right.

When will the cabinet meeting be?

Friday.

Cancel that for tomorrow.

I think it should be .

Now, on the legislative leaders, I think that I'm convinced that those meetings are such a white lie.

of ranking members of committees.

I was asking to pick up a list so we can see what they've done.

And ranking members of committees have very few White House staff.

Just cut the White House staff right down to the bones.

You know, just the ones that have to be there.

McGregor, the ones that really need to be built up.

Because those things are such a horrible thing in the ass that whoever has to cover them, McGregor and, you know,

I don't know, but I wouldn't have others.

It would need somebody for the agenda set.

I'll call them in and make a presentation.

We used to do that all the time at the Oxnard.

The people never stayed in the room after the fact that they'd come in and make a presentation and walk out.

I don't know, but to hear, I think it was solely an economic thing.

Well, I guess you can't, can you?

Sure.

Yeah, well, that's all we care about.

I think we have to just keep shoving it around people's throats.

Everything's just...

I think that on those meetings, Bob, since there's such a waste of time anyway, that we might as well bring in that.

Now, another idea would be to bring in the lowest-ranking member of committees, too.

See what I mean?

The highest and lowest-ranking members, so that you get a little more gestation of the younger group at the end.

Tell the Raider to make up some different things.

If he did that, maybe because he wanted to keep control of himself.

If he did that and then interspersed with this, what we're going to do with your meeting with the four leaders, then it would make some sense anyway.

Because the other meeting is kind of ridiculous.

He's not a leader anymore.

I don't know if Gilbert was there at this point.

I don't know if Everly had taken that job.

Yeah.

He probably is.

It sucks that he's not.

This would just take a push in.

All right.

Okay.

Well, we'll all sit down.

We'll do our meeting on that.

Right.

And actually follow Stuart's particular relationship with the effect of the President's initiative on it.

on this monetary field, trade field, and also the need for America to take a direction.

It's a sensational need for America to be competitive.

We're getting a chance every year.

We've got some tax in America every day.

We've got to get in.

And it isn't just under whose capacity it is that America is not competitive, but it's competitive capacity that America needs.

This is a community that we find that

that the nations abroad, since they've built their plants since World War II, are major shepherds of the world.

As a newer planet than we have, an American must have new plants.

I'd just like to say, let me say that Joe, he and Frank, we should have a relationship.

We should have a relationship.

You're not going to participate, Greg?

Yeah, right.

All right, fine.

The 1230 time is September.

Is that correct?

Yeah.

What the hell?

Schultz said, I'm going to take Schultz out today.

He has the productivity, excuse me, report from the convention that he's going to put out today, which will tie in with your speech, with the reference to productivity in your slides today.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Of course, the lead will be your address to join us in Congress.

Oh, sure.

Sure.

Is there any way I've heard your answer in the speech?

There will be a session in Congress on economic policy, you should say.

And tax reform?

Of course.

This is an economic policy, right?

It will be addressed on economic policy in Congress.

And is he going to cover it?

No, he's not going to say.

Will he announce stage two?

Not even close.

I'm not going to comment.

Don't say that.

Don't anticipate.

Don't worry about it.

I mean, I'm positive.

We're going to do it.

I'm not going to comment.

Yeah.

Okay.

They did quite a bit of play about the radio talk.

Yes, sir, they did.

Really, they really did.

I think they did a great job.

If you hadn't done that, me and the Democratic candidates on their labor campaign, as it turned out, you topped all of them.

Well, I mean, the red congrats on television.

Yeah, it must have been television.

No, you did great.

Fantastic broadcast on radio.

I keep saying how important that is.

I still believe that radio is more important.

And for example, a lot of the locals and what they sent out over syndicated wire for the TV was they went up to Camp David and took pictures, scene-setting pictures of the Brooks and the Kentucky Mountain sign and the Camp David sign.

And as you spoke, the voices in the background, they showed those scenes.

That's right.

Outside we can't.

This is on television.

Yes, sir.

Is that right?

Well, it's local here, but NBC, there's got to be a way to send that out of a syndicated, you know, we'll give NBC a call from the president.

I was very impressed by how they turned it.

It was very impressive.

You call a Jewish commitment on a phone conversation.

I was very impressed with the technicals, the way that they handled the radio clocks and people who were doing more reading on the second campaign.

It was very, very impressive.

Good work.

I worked out with Ray.

He'll talk to you about it.

I think we have Steve's phone now, the very best way to do our radio talks.

And I think we'll just call them, I don't know what we'll call them, talks from Camp David.

In other words, they will be the Camp David service.

The beauty of that is that I can do them all at Camp David.

And Ray, of course, will get them in a package.

The visor service cannot do this because it's too much topical.

But, you know, if you have a little guy that talks from Camp David, even here at the mountain, you have a picture of a member of Camp David,

story in the background about Roosevelt's figure, the president of the mountain top looking surveillance in the 80s in the world.

So is that one of the good times?

Isn't that a nice touch?

Rather than, you see, rather than Sapphire's idea of the fireside chats or the library or the

or a new part of our jazz, and so forth and so on, and see it gets to me.

The thing that I don't think we should do, Bob, is to get away from the things that Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and all the other things that he said.

We'll be right back.

Surveys are coming in for a tour of the White House.

Who gave it to Alex?

some uh detroit press and it probably gets me good at pushing play for that it says there's somewhere just a picture of those garden steps and the president over the european

Thank you.

Yeah, they came up with the other one.

I thought like, I'm gonna need for a new economic policy.

And very long.

And when we say that we need this morning, it's a Freudian slip.

Committee for New Prosperity is what Moore said, right?

Or Lewis?

Oh, there's a group for New Prosperity, which is the GNP.

I was amazed that they come up with some great, cute slogans.

For Christ's sakes, freeze.

Whoops, we had more gimmicks last week.

That was some of the tenders and classics.

Should I raise this with the...

or seven.

Any other questions?

One thing you'll need to know about this is that it will be counter-attacking the Muslim company.

Because it's pointed to the camera, those are big guns, and they fire big shots.

Do you think there's somebody who's going to take them on?

Or at least that we've got to have something like that.

We've done it for the first three weeks.

All right.

Do you think the administration should do it, or do you think our guys in the Hill should do it?

I'm not at all sure that the administration should.

If we can get it done on the Hill, fine, but it won't get played.

It won't get enough for us.

It's worth a try.

This is where a little reading ought to start.

I know a lot of reading has come on as the administration's defender now.

Those people are presidential candidates.

He's the national chair.

Serious, serious problem.

Let's stay out of it.

I'll get to do it myself.

I think they were worth it if we talked to him.

Of course, he was out of it.

When he came back from Vietnam, he just didn't know why.

He stood back in time today.

Getting really And when you do start pressing him hard, he pitches it being forced into things.

I pressed him because you guys were pressing me from the airplane.

I forgot what it was about.

One second.

I'm wondering if you felt that this was the time to let it go, or...

I thought I was just soaking in musky, and the main thing I was trying to mention there is that I would, I think that rather than having

i mean telling 100 people they ought to do something about you really got to get down chucked in three maybe maybe they're maybe you've got three guys that can make news maybe it's gold water and who else

the administration answer to the Democratic... Well, let it go, I'll get it to him.

Let it go, I'll get it to him.

And I would vote God for it.

I was stuck with this thing.

Scott, is he back?

No, he gets back this weekend.

Well, uh, well, Griffin, he's not much to stick with.

I'd look over that Senate and find whatever not cards there are.

What the hell's the matter with Howard Baker?

John Taller?

Taller's a... Taller will... Taller will step up for it.

Uh...

Griffin was very good the last couple of weeks.

Every time we called him, he just... Well, that's a good remark.

Why don't we get Percy to be a hero?

Yeah, we've talked to him, and he'd love to help.

All right.

Get him in.

Now, I, in fact, must be perfect.

The tax proposal is to God and the big guns.

Now, that he's panicked because of his song of the polls.

That's the way to crack it.

He's panicked because of his song of the polls.

I just cracked a little bit of Jesus on it.

Some of the other Democrats would like that too.

It's a silly idea of how they can stand together.

Give over.

What else do you have in mind?

Glory.

I think, answering your first question, Mr. President, I think we should take off back at, try from the hill, if we can do it, to get back at Humphrey and Mussie for yesterday's statements.

I think I'd leave Meany alone right at the moment.

He's kind of, he really has isolated himself, and I think he's on top of it.

I know he's isolated himself, but I think when you've got a good enemy, maybe you ought to make him a good enemy.

You mean we're going to do something later?

Something easy?

He just said he's out of step.

Let's hit him again.

Jim Goldwater said he's just out of step.

He's a great American, but isn't it tragic that he's out of step with 75% of the American people, including 70% of his own labor union members who want this?

You've got to get this, I must say, I guess maybe the press won't carry it, but I believe that if they can't do it, they won't.

No, they'll carry it now.

That ought to sit for a few seconds.

I wish we could build up one house.

They'll all say, they'll say anything, but if any of them could make a reputation as a mean...

It's not a conventional thing.

That's what you really need.

Oh, yes.

The best part he's got is Bill's shirt.

Oh, sure he is.

He's totally irresponsible.

He says horrible things.

Divine will do it, but Divine has done it and gets very little press.

Jerry Ford will do it.

Jerry is...

I took to Jerry several times during the recess.

He's willing to really do battle for us.

The captain thing, I just want to comment on that for a moment.

He doesn't believe it will work Friday because of the Japanese.

He says they've all got dates with the Japanese.

So it's not that early in the morning, is it?

Well, what they need to do is to call and see.

Yeah.

If they have, the next captain meeting will be at 5.

See what I mean?

They certainly aren't going to have anything for that.

Because I didn't have any cash for meeting Beth.

The other two seats, I didn't have any cash for meeting Monday.

Yeah.

I think you've got to put on these people.

Because I'm serious.

If you get back to my ranch,

Which is what?

Did you see it?

No.

Goddamn, I sent it back last night.

No, see, it's probably either in my box or Chuck's now.

Is this on the economic issue?

The one weakness of the program, and there is a weakness, is the failure to have an outlet.

And another enormous and great weakness is to have an ego for the business concept.

But the business council gets on total, imperfect pain in the ass.

That will not help us.

They will not do it.

They never do.

It's dirty that way.

I will meet with Tom.

Those guys have made their decisions.

They're going to do it.

It's better just to build a new establishment there.

Maybe Tom has to do it.

I will never be the business council again.

Never.

I was so sure they were going to do it.

I don't care what it's been.

Cambodia allows the economy, labor, education, anything else.

We have never had the business council do anything for us, have we?

No.

As an organization, they're absolutely dead on their plans.

I'm interested in you guys.

We will empower guys and those guys, you know, and about five others, and Fred Fortune and others.

My thing goes up.

But why go down to that group of socialites?

who absolutely do nothing.

I think we're just crazy to build them up.

I just leave them alone.

I do the old, I do the NAM, and I'm caught in cancer, and I'm caught in the rest.

But don't waste my time.

Well, the NIM and the Chamber are both, they've really been organizing superbly over the last two weeks.

Well, they have a facility for that, too, where women's groups and lesbians are enormously important.

You've got, you've got, you know, she's a nice old lady, and I've been around to hear those speeches from those concerns, and that's great.

I've organized them, and Pat did the work on them.

Now, she's pretty good, but it's not with the public.

You know about Women's Executives?

The Legion has one.

The VFW has one.

The Rotarians, they have orderians.

The Kalanians, everybody has got Women's Executives.

You've got also the Women's Federation.

The one thing you have on a witness in there is a total wipeout.

The League of Women Voters, they aren't worth a shit.

They are unbelievably bad.

They were the story line.

If they're bad, they're left waiting.

They will not end up on our side.

Uh-huh.

or a liberal Republican.

We've tried that job on other occasions.

And all it does, every time I meet with them, is to send all of our right-wing up the wall, and we get no help from these people.

I don't mind somebody at a lower level.

You know what I mean?

You can have Larry A.D. or Jacob or somebody, but don't have me.

I wouldn't suggest you talk to them, but they have...

Their leadership are with us on this particular issue, and if we can use them.

All right.

But they're not.

All right, come on.

They don't have the base to support the business and professional women.

The business and professional women would be excellent.

And the general federation.

Well, the federation secretary is a federation member.

There's the American bond sales, the women's bond sales.

There's American bankers, there's American lawyers, doctors.

I had women organized in their profession, but I also had them in their homemaker classification, and that is where they're considered.

But I had women going from home.

I had a women's organization.

I reported to them, and I heard them talk about it a little bit, because they were always fighting each other.

I'm going to try to get them on this.

Let them make this a little better.

Let me say, all in all, that was an excellent analysis.

Excellent analysis.

Your other general thought on it was the need to zero in on a few of those things.

Because it's not such a large smorgasbord, it's all too big.

You couldn't get it all done if you assigned it out.

You send it out to enough people, and then have somebody at the top that calls them every day and says, what have you got in your project?

20 guys.

But I don't know whether we've got anybody around here with enough time to supervise the 20.

But you've got a lot of young voters around here.

Let them do it.

But if three or four, for example, the one thing that I was, I sat through the Peterson briefing today.

It was very good.

But Bobby, you've got to get Peterson to understand what I'm saying.

Now, as I saw the Congressman mention, it was a little long.

It wasn't too long.

The difficulty, it was too much.

He tries to indicate in every brief that he has thought of every subject.

And he covers it with fiscal speed.

The only effective readings that are ever made are ones that zero in, two or three, some extreme or sophisticated groups.

You get the others in a very, but you just can't go down unless you've got A and B.

It's really an exercise for college freshmen, but it simply does not.

And he proved that he has thought about it, and he has, and it's a God-handed exercise.

But if he wants to make a sale, he wants to get something through, he's got to zero in on three or four subjects.

You see what I mean?

It's the same problem where he probably says it right in his speech.

I mean, he just cannot zero in on two or four things.

And here, Chuck, don't follow this same pattern where you've got to sit down and any bright guy is thinking of so many good ideas, and maybe one of them works.

I was thinking about it in that respect.

What the hell happened to our volunteer man?

Is he still around?

Is he doing, oh yeah.

Has he ever zeroed in on a line?

Yeah, he's zeroed in on a couple of the, you know, we've got a regular reading, he's got it zeroed down to four or five, and all right to me, it's not one that's going to kill that at this point.

Well, that didn't work.

Yeah.

Well, okay, then you've done it, too.

And they've agreed to take on the year thing.

And they've got to take on the ecology or something in that environmental thing so they can get their money.

But they're good.

He has a point, and he's got himself down to it.

Only, I just want him to service some time with something where he gets publicity that he's doing something.

It isn't that volunteers accomplish a whole lot.

But with the people of God, you know, that we care about them.

And I haven't seen a word of the volunteers.

Maybe it's because they, 50 or 80 volunteers went up, you know, and picked up the beer cans, or whatever they had of volunteers.

Yeah, that's what he's doing with the student group.

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Don't you agree?

Yeah.

And I agree with you, though.

If they can.

Just to back to my speech, one thing I'd like to ask you about, Mr. President, we've started the – we're organizing a citizen committee, which most of the pressure and lobby groups that want to work for us on the job development credit will work through.

And it's kind of a fun group that is very much like Kennedy had in 1962 when he had a couple of thousand businessmen, but they went under a public name rather than

Chamber of Commerce, NIL, allied machine tool people.

To pick this, Mr. President, as sort of the bumper sticker or window slogan, which is, the ceiling was at the most universal.

Just a simple stop equation in the shape of a stop sign.

And we've run this through all of our PR people, plus Hoag Lewis's art men.

He

They want to change it to simply say, help stop inflation.

Add that one word.

The name of the committee is Committee for a New Prosperity.

We think it has the most universal appeal.

And this is...

No, it's not a good idea.

CMT is better, and that ties to it too.

This is a very ordinary kind of a thing.

We had 18 different creative designs.

We came back to the simplest as the best in the end.

The only thing I had to try to look at in your memorandum was the negative interpretation of Scott.

I mean, I feel that, you know, it's the

Looking at it in terms of service clubs, everybody else is looking at it in terms of building, building, creating.

This was everyone's objection.

I see.

finally prevail on the grounds that on the argument that it is negative to say stop inflation but but that's the side that you're on you're you are fighting to stop inflation yes it's true especially build prosperity right which means building jobs and stopping inflation it would say jobs

Well, that's why we did this one.

Prosperity is everybody's job as a bumper sticker.

It goes with this small logo.

It's everybody's job.

It's not bad.

I mean, that's very good.

All right.

We'll look.

this this kind of thing we thought we would have made up pursuers where they could put it in their window the steward supports the new prosperity stop the equation department stores furniture stores and car dealers and everybody else says uh president nixon and curtis brothers

join to bring you the greatest bargains in the season.

Mr. President, we support you and your policy, and all our cars are being removed from the lot this weekend, whatever the price may be.

You know, they're all right at the time to you as a merchandise and given.

Well, there's a bank in New Jersey that has a great photograph of you, and we've backed you all the way, Mr. President.

Our interest rates are down, and they're running out of money for the state.

It hasn't got a, it's not a drain.

It's good.

It's awful.

They just get it moving a little more.

There's a place, Chuck, where you will get not one with a support, be glad it's friends with that.

I know.

Not one of them.

Not one of those selfish bastards will do that.

I must say, I... You know what?

Yeah.

I'll never do them again.

I remember tempering this language.

I just read it in view of the importance of the issue.

The president might consider it.

I knew very well you wouldn't consider the business canceled.

There is one guy who is a brawler and you've met with him and he

Boy, he's behind you a thousand percent.

He's Bill Keeler, Phillips Petroleum.

He's been running these coupons all over Oklahoma.

We've had 5,000 in the last week.

He's a hell of a guy.

And he'll do anything for us.

He'll run all...

Yes, he was the president of...

He's going to circulate these through his gas stations, which is a great source of getting them out.

The only other thing which the president must regard is the presidential certificate.

Has that...

Can I ask you a question?

No, because we've still got to come up with a design.

But the idea, you know, it was in the memo, the idea of a presidential commendation.

We've now got about 20,000 of those that we know of.

and more when she did.

Well, I've got to check John Dean on the seal.

It came up in the United California Bank, which pledged to hold its interest rates for the rest of the year, and they had 400-odd branches, and Vic Moore wanted to suggest that they reproduce them and put one in every branch of it.

And that's the question we have to decide.

No problem.

Mr. President, we have a group of senators lined up to speak tomorrow.

We'll get them to take on Mosky and Humphrey as best we can.

And if that doesn't

get us the ride we want.

I'd like to try that.

We can come back to the three Ms. We got a good ride out of John Connolly's M&Ms.

If that doesn't work, then we will take a look at having someone within the administration.

I think this is the fact that they're out of step.

They're out of step.

The old politics, the old partisan politics,

The super partisans.

All the super partisans.

Especially the super partisans, the old politicians.

And, uh, out of step.

Of course, his defense to it was the way in which, you noticed yesterday the papers there, his argument was that the question, oh, he commented on the poll.

He said the poll doesn't prove a thing because the question was loaded to get an answer that everybody would give.

And then in the very same news story, they printed the exact question, which was not loaded.

And so his argument was that the question was, do you want to stop inflation and create jobs?

Of course, it was not the test.

I know.

He hasn't done it.

No, of course not.

And Harris's came out yesterday the same.

It was virtually the even better results, as a matter of fact.

Well, of course, Harris's, that's something we have now and something that

It's good.

It's a good kid.

Keep going and have something else come up later.

If the legislation goes through the Congress, those polls will hold up.

That's what people are watching for.

If we get what we're asking for, that's the great thing.

I don't know if we can avoid getting more than we're asking for.

Well, it's such an asinine proposal because you take a tax credit for buying something.

Well, obviously, you're going to buy things with any money that you have, particularly low-income tax rates.

Now he's, obviously he's reaching.

That's what he's got to reach in on.

You know, you've got to get off the car, and he came up with a jackass scheme to airbrake, airbrake him down.

You've got to get some goddamn tough language.

Poorly thought out.

He knew how to strut it, but you can't just start copying it with a little of the writing on that.

Yes, sir.

It's got to be much rougher, much more knackered, you know.

Maybe get him on a couple of those, he'd be very helpful.

Oh, he will.

He's been, as I told you, he gave a whale of a speech at the Massachusetts last week.

Didn't get much press, but it sure turned around a lot of conservative decisions.

Sure.

Let's have him go speak to Gann.

I talked to the Vice President's office about that this morning.

His inclination is to ignore it, but I suggest that he at least consider disavowing it.

Reagan did.

Reagan did completely.

The Vice President is opening the governance conference next Monday, which will get a lot of press, and it might be a good place to get back to the herd.

Muskie speaks the next day to them.

The way the vice president could do it could be in the same way that Reagan did, really, which is a letter to them that doesn't get into disavowing so much as it gets into supporting the president.

Oh, that's just good.

Not saying it's a speech or anything, but just a short letter, two or three paragraphs.

Talks about the end.

It gets along well with the governance and we're trying to organize it.

We're sending some people down to get supporting statements from governance.

A resolution perhaps passed for the governance conference if we can.

We're certain enough in advance that we have the votes.

Well, if you go, we would have a majority of governors, politically, but you have a majority on this issue, most of the Democrats.

I don't think so, because you have a majority of the people.

I think what has happened is that both Muskie and Humphrey have thought, what the hell can we lose?

We've got to take off.

But they won't lose unless they are attacked.

Our guys just aren't good on the attack.

Or maybe they are good, but people don't carry them.

That's not a thing.

They hit them rather than carry them.

They hit them real rough.

Well, they, you know, they carried the companies.

At that time, they must have carried them in news magazines and picked up on television.

The colonists caught it.

It got caught up with me.

I think if we do it right, we can get them.

See how we make out tomorrow.

If we don't, if we're not able to score tomorrow, we will.

Yeah.

We'll come back and... You think there's another show?

There's going to be a lot of focus on the Congress tomorrow.

Yeah, Congress is fine.

Yeah.

Well, they're all sitting there wondering what's going to happen when Congress is back.

That's why this address on Thursday is here.

All right.

It isn't what you say, it's the fact that you're running up to the center.

Okay, good luck.

Oh, I think it's the best ones.

There it is.

All the trash.

Good.

Can you ask for the unexplained?

My multinexplained.

I've got it already.

I have to take it.

Somebody else.

You've got it.

I'm grabbing that one.

Yep.

Okay.

This has the unadjusted also, which he didn't have.

If you want to show us something, whatever you want.

That's about it.

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I realize that you have all put on a real dry line.

And here's a new picture that the man picks up.

Okay.

Around the world.

We have a plan set up for our new apartments.

And another thing I think would be a good idea would be Rose goes back to Santa Barbara.

to a number of people.

I don't know how they're going to do it.

Hey, it's a nice way to get a new picture to touch base with a lot of good old friends.

And it might get difficult later, so I realize it's a lot of people who got those old pictures with their daughter.

I have a health problem.

Well, if you don't sign up for those people, you don't know who she signed up for.

Yeah.

Let's be sure we get these ordered properly, because he's done a very good job on them.

I'd like for all they to get together is maybe 30 vests.

the idea that some of those may be better than what we want.

At least, you know, candid pictures, always got a lot of us, you know, shaking hands with people, reference different kinds of men, speaking, and so forth and so on.

Many of it is very best.

And so in order to have some people look at it.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

I don't know what it was.

And what that would be, in some of the stories, there's been a, well, Oberdorfer had one, and that may be what she saw.

Oberdorfer had a thing where he made the point that, and it wasn't actually bad, although it was both ways, that you had, he was trying to develop a thesis that you have a thing where you lob a bombshell and then you,

disappear and let everybody else run around picking up the pieces.

And then you're just trying to analyze that as to, you know, that may be a good strategy or maybe a bad strategy.

Excuse me, Dr. Kisly.

I can't do it.

I'm sorry.

It's totally urgent.

It has to be put off until Friday.

I hope he has the edge.

There are ways to get all these examples and to continue to go that way.

It will take as much time as I can for the other thing.

Well, what we're on, of course, is constantly the bottom.

It continues on what we've got to do.

You see, it's a constant job.

Sure, it may be, it may be, you know, it's awful hard to keep right up to the mark.

But there's no, I just don't think you have, you know, you're going to get sniping, and he did look ready, and he can snipe at you, but you can't.

With who?

We do have preparation for when I can call you later in the week or next week.

Have a talk with Mitchell with regard to the Hoover situation.

Give me a call.

It's very interesting.

I'm going to have to visit you first.

I'm going to have to get back to you.

It's just, that's what she wants.

It still gets back to what Pat wants, what she wants, yeah.

The more anybody else gets into it, the more there's a problem with it.

But I'll sure be glad to do anything.

Anything that anybody does, I think it's got to be done in her, she's got to be excited.

Her direction, Adam.

We're back and settled.

This might be a good time just to raise the question with her as to whether there's anything she would like me to do or that she'd like to keep her or if we haven't decided.

Yeah.

I just might raise it and say, look, we've got now 14 months.

I want to be sure that the colony is scheduled.

At this time, Bob, you're more regulated than they are.

Mitchell and Littleton doesn't mean a hell of a lot to me right now.

See?

Unless they have something to bring up.

I'd rather not get too much into that with the economy.

We haven't been down on a tentative time next week.

We haven't gone to the party.

We've gone to the party after the tentative one.

And then we've got to get them set for next week, too.

I like to keep...

after 4 o'clock, 3 o'clock, about 6 o'clock.

It's May 1 o'clock.

And it's all, the weather's very radical on that May 1 o'clock.

No golf or something like that.

But say around 4 o'clock, just wipe off the day and see.

And, yeah.

That's the schedule I'm on right now.

That final anchor is just going to be, you know, a real bitch.

Does she know how late at night it is?

When you get out of there,

It's going to be late in the morning.

It's going to be about 6 o'clock, 5 o'clock in the morning.

I'm just not sure.

I don't know what the assertion is.

That's what she is.

So we'll just go that way.

Or we will go to the parking lot.

We'll explore Mansfield very soon.

Let's get at least our options in the current Mansfield.

We'll just get back to Mansfield.

With charges, I feel it's very important to emphasize the big issues.

I say it's a wild big issue, but I meant to say

And I think that that's really the problem about me, is you can have far ground with Jack Miller and Carl Curtis.

I'm not going to be in the gunner.

It isn't worth their while.

I think you've got to get a three-four hatchet down.

Maybe you've got to get a couple other conkers in.

I don't know.

I can see that one of those guys in the conkers in the rear is hit.

This would be an excellent opportunity for an adult like me to have.

Okay.

Balls.

Cap.

Major in front.

You'd think those guys would look at my goddamn polls and see 75% of the people with something didn't jump.

You know, they seem to be sort of a weak bunch.

Yep.

They do.

Let me give you a couple of other briefings.

I think we have a block that basically has to be, to be trying to be on the manic field today.

And I think the reason is that you don't have anybody over there who thinks in those terms.

It occurred to me that more could really be getting pumping on that.

For example, in letters, I was interested in notating.

heard the radio and they had the two things stuck out in the damn speech, the little radio talk, where the little kind of letter from a woman, a man from Texas who was the school teacher's wife, and some story about that my father worked in the service station or some damn thing.

Now those things they remembered.

They didn't remember a hell of a lot of other things.

I can't get Ray to think this way, and I don't get Senator to think this way, and none of the speechwriters think this way either.

And I know why.

They're just not oriented that way.

It's the political thing.

But I think Moore is.

Don't you agree?

Yep, he is.

I'm obviously giving him a responsibility look here.

I'm going to read some of this mail.

to give me a good picture of Mayo.

I wanted to just think constantly of anecdotes.

The other area where I believe you could sort of keep up the discussion and so forth on our connections is the idea of the Himmer area.

Maybe some type of keys or something like that.

Most of this stuff, 90% is not usable.

On the other hand, we seldom have a gesture of answer.

Much of us leave.

And sometimes they come up with something.

Paul can help on, if you give him a specific thing to give you half of this idea, it's one of which you can use.

And that's what they've got to do, I think.

They've got to give Paul the background on it.

Because he needs to know that.

Oh, that's good.

I'd like to grab hold of this.

I have spoken several times about the need to help Pat and eventually Julie Christian on preparing materials.

She told me that she didn't expect to have anybody like her.

The man that I think could do the best, because it takes a young man, you know, competing, and, you know, it's subtle enough to do it, is Andrews.

I think Andrews, he writes quickly, and, you know, you're not, this is not a question of writing long speeches, it's a question of a few remarks, like, as I listen to the

or something like that.

Somebody who does have a gift for writing and writes well.

Or she does anything like that.

But, you know, the Andrews or Roy, the guy to write me out, where they aren't still doing enough, and it's partly Pat's fault.

Yeah, because, you know, they're wanting somebody to send this stuff over, and it doesn't, I don't know, she's terribly difficult to work, and I know this is what I do, but I think her staff probably have to take off some of it.

It's really a question, really, of her having the feeling that the contact is at a higher level.

Like, for example, with...

If she gets a call, basically answers, and she doesn't know, that's one thing.

If Christ, however, says, I'm sending a soldier, it means a lot more.

And in your case, for example, you have to do it.

If she doesn't pay me, that's one thing.

If she doesn't view it as something else, and so forth.

I think it's really the question of whether she considers it important.

And another thing I think you can do on this too, I think when Rose gets back, you can make very good use of her.

Any time she can make calls or say, look, I've got something here, or I don't know, I've got some problems.

Take schedule problems.

Whenever she is the part on the schedule, then I think it's very important that I just have the time to do it.

Where you can, where you just call and give it to them, or we can prompt the schedule.

Or we can do that, Alex.

I think that they get the same schedule that all of us do, and the schedule is put together.

I know, and that I'm not sure I'm talking about.

I've already thought about the fact that maybe on Thanksgiving we're invited to go out to California for the purpose of doing this kind of the other thing.

It's that sort of thing, right?

That sort of thing has to come from a pretty, you know, high level.

Paul can help on, if you give him a specific thing, can give you half of those ideas, one of which you can use.

Yeah.

And that's what they've got to do, I think, is when they've got to do it.

They've got to give Paul the background on it, because he needs to know that.

Oh, that's good.

Another thing I'd like you to grab ahold of is this.

I have spoken to several times about the need to help Pat and eventually Julie Christian on preparing their materials.

She told me that she doesn't have anybody on her staff who can write, and I'm not surprised.

Hell, it's very hard to find anybody who can.

The man that I think could do the best is basically a young man.

You know, it's subtle enough to do it.

Ms. Andrews, I think Andrews, he writes quickly.

And, you know, you're not, this is not a question of writing long speeches.

It's a question of a few remarks, like, I don't know if you want to listen to the United Gators song, you know, or something like that.

Somebody who does have a gift for writing, writes well.

or she does anything like that, they do.

But, you know, the Andrews or Roy, the guy to write me out, where they aren't still doing enough, and it's partly Pat's fault.

Yeah, because, you know, they're wanting somebody to send this stuff over, and it doesn't, I don't know, she's terribly difficult to work with, and I always want to do it, but I think her staff probably have to take off some of it.

It's really a question, really.

of her having the feeling that the contact is at a higher level.

Like, for example, if she gets a call, basically answers, and she doesn't know, that's one thing.

If Christ, however, says, I am sending a soldier, it means a lot more.

And in your case, for example, if you have Japanese, you have to do it so she doesn't, Haley does one thing, and she doesn't view it as something else.

and so forth.

I think it's really the question of whether she considers it important.

And I think you've also got to, and another thing I think you could do on this too, I think when Rosie is back, you can make very good use of her.

Anytime she calls her, say, look, I've got something here, or I don't know, some problems.

Take schedule problems.

Whenever she is informed on the schedule of that,

I think it's very important that, because I just don't have time to do it.

Where you can, where you just call and give it to them, where we can prompt the schedule.

Or we can't do that, Alex.

I think that they get the same schedule that all of us do, when the schedule is put together.

I know.

That's what I'm trying to talk about.

I've already talked about it.

We're invited to go out to California for the purpose of doing this kind of thing.

It's that sort of thing.

It's a long range thing that we're considering an invitation.

We've got to get the guys in our center on this matter because you are not expected or so forth and so on.

It's that sort of thing.

It has to come from a pretty high level association

He was an eye-catcher, you see, decided that I was a kind of favorite of the future race, and I think it's a, and then you can curse with all the support that you can get through.

And they have it done by people that are considered to be basically as citizens rather than by top people, because I think that's the,

That's also something on their own staff.

People are getting irritated about their, like, oh, well, somebody, a kid over there called me about this, and I hate that they go there.

Why don't you jackasses even do it?

But that's the way they are, you know.

But her staff, her staff, people work pretty well with the people over here now.

So they, it's where I was, you and Rose, I was on the down cat.

I think she's going to be a very good

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