Conversation: 568-004
Prev:  568-003 Next: 568-005Start Date: 9-Sep-1971 3:03 PM
End Date: 9-Sep-1971 3:34 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shafer, Raymond P.; Jaffe, Jerome H. (Dr.); Krogh, Egil ("Bud"), Jr.; White House photographer; Sanchez, Manolo; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:08:07
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:40:29
NARA Description:
On September 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Raymond P. Shafer, Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., White House photographer, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:03 pm to 3:34 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 568-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 568-4 Date: September 9, 1971 Time: 3:03 pm - 3:34 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Raymond P. Shafer, Jerome H. Jaffe, and Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting. Greetings The economy -The President's September 9, 1971 speech to Congress Photograph 3 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 568-4 (cont.) -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins The President's September 9, 1971 speech -Congress -Democrats Krogh and Jaffe -Trip around the world -Discussion -Michael R. Sonnenriech [Executive Director] Purposes of meeting -Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse -Status -Submission of report -Politics Marijuana Commission reports -Marijuana -Drug abuse -Marijuana -March 1972 -Public hearings -Formal, informal -Marijuana -Public use -Demographics Marijuana Commission -Establishment -Handling of responsibilities -Congress -George P. Shultz -Handling of funding for commission -Morale of commission -Formation -Reaction of administration opponents -Press reaction to selection of members -Age, political outlook -Sonnenreich -Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs [BNDD] background 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 568-4 (cont.) An unknown person [Manolo Sanchez?] entered at an unknown time after 3:03 pm. Refreshment The unknown person [Sanchez?] left at an unknown time before 3:34 pm. Marijuana Commission -Sonnenreich -Election by Commission -Shafer -Background as former prosecutor Commissions -Difficulty -[William W.] Scranton Commission Marijuana -Jaffe -Legalization -Penalties for use -Effect of jailing offenders -Contact with hardened criminals -Arlen Specter -Probation -Legislation in Illinois -Smoking cigarettes compared to smoking marijuana -Introductory effect for further use of drugs Marijuana Commission -Recent reputation of national commissions -Shafer's acceptance of job -Scranton’s experience -John N. Mitchell -The President's role -Commission members -Focus, issues under study -Legalization of marijuana -The President's statements -Commission’s mandate 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 568-4 (cont.) -National survey -Funding -Congressional authorization -Research work -George H. Gallup -Princeton University -Research Associates poll -Marijuana -Public attitudes -Extent of use -Statistic -Vietnam War -Use of drugs -Responsibility -Heroin -Addiction -Maurice H. Seevers -Perceptions of public health interest -Marijuana -Pharmacology -Demythologizing -Youth -Presidential support -Impact of fight against drug abuse -Families -Comparison with economic action's effect -Other issues -Vietnam War -Political issue -The President's public stance -Legalization issue -Composition -Perceptions of Commission -Stance -Marijuana, other drugs -Penalties -Uniformity -Present variations -Texas -6 year term -North Dakota 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 568-4 (cont.) -99 year maximum term -Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 -Seevers, Dana L. Farnsworth, Henry Brill -Morale -Requested meeting with the President -Contact with Krogh, Jaffe -Sonnenreich -Differing views on marijuana -Education -Forthcoming Commission report -Effect -Profile -Scranton Commission -Various organizations with interest and responsibilities in field of drug abuse -Commission -White House group headed by Jaffe -Department of Justice -Department of Health, Education, Welfare [HEW] -J. Edgar Hoover -Perceptions -Contrast of emotional and intellectual approach -Long range health and social impact of Commission’s action -Role and responsibilities -Compared to Jaffe’s office -Handling of drug abuse -Trip abroad -Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain -British use of methadone treatment -Marijuana -Anecdote -Growing marijuana plants -Smoking, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, films -Greta Garbo - I am Curious [Yellow] film -Public awareness Gifts -Golf -Shafer’s game -Golf ball -Cufflinks 7 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 568-4 (cont.) Marianne H. Means -Newspaper column -Shafer and Judgeship -Previous administration Commission's work Krogh and Jaffe left at 3:32 pm. Appointment -Mitchell -Hugh Scott -Philadelphia -Unknown person's appointment -Milton J. Shapp -Scott Appointment of judges -Blacks -Sequence of events -Mitchell -Ohio American youth -Campus groups -Robert H. Finch -Donald H. Rumsfeld Marijuana Commission -Shafer's forthcoming statement to press -President’s convictions Shafer left at 3:34 pm.