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Start Date: 9-Sep-1971 3:58 PM

End Date: 9-Sep-1971 5:06 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:01:36

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:08:34

568a.mp3

568b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:58 pm and 5:06 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 568-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 568-9

Date: September 9, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:58 pm and 5:06 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Vietnam
          -Troops
               -Numbers

     Public appearances
          -The President's appearances
                -Frequency
                -Impact of communication
                -John D. Ehrlichman
                -Frequency
                      -William L. Safire
          -National television
          -Talk with students
          -Talk with Plumbers' Union members
          -Awareness by people
                -Impact of television
          -Effort at communication
                -Effectiveness
          -Contact
                -College presidents, business leaders
                -Effort by the President

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:58 pm.

     John B. Connally

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:05 pm.

          -Effect of communication
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                           Tape Subject Log
                                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


                 -The President's effort

     Speechmaking
          -Interest by people
          -Question and Answer [Q&A] sessions
          -Radio appearances
                -Number of people reached
                      -Radio speeches, newspaper story
                -Effort by the President
                      -Story
          -The President's September 9, 1971 speech before Congress
                -Announcement

     Press relations
           -Meeting with the press
                 -Timing
                 -Location
                      -Oval Office
                 -Value
                 -Q&A session
                      -In Detroit (September 23, 1971)
                      -Effectiveness
           -September 9 speech
                 -Probable effectiveness
                 -Timing
                 -August 15, 1971 economic speech
                      -News coverage
                      -Political reaction

Connally entered at 4:05 pm.

     Greetings

     Speech by the President before Congress, September 9, 1971
          -Effectiveness
          -The President's delivery

     The economy
          -Domestic economy
              -Possible future actions
                    -Need for confidentiality
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


            -Lack of consensus
-Meetings with the President
      -Formulation of opinions
            -Advice
      -Labor, agriculture, business
      -Haldeman
      -Arnold R. Weber
      -George P. Shultz
      -Paul W. McCracken
      -Notetaking
      -Small groups
      -Cost of Living Council [COLC] meeting with labor leaders
            -Number of people
                  -Setting
            -Labor
            -Agriculture
            -Experts
                  -Weber
                  -McCracken
                  -Shultz
                  -Herbert Stein
            -Communication
-Wage-price freeze
      -Announcement
            -Wilbur D. Mills
-Issues
      -Domestic area
            -Wage and price freeze
                  -Possible further action
                        -Timing
                             -1972 elections
                  -The President's meetings with special interest groups
                        -Meetings
                             -Labor
                             -Business
                  -Rollbacks
-International area
      -Europe
            -Paul A. Volcker's comments
            -Markets
            -Belgium, the Netherlands
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


                -Pivot plan
                      -Gold price
                            -European Economic Community [EEC, Common
                                  Market]
                      -Exchange rates
                            -Floating currency
-Monetary issues
    -Areas of responsibility within the US government
          -Trade, defense
                -Commerce, Defense, State, and Department of Treasury
    -Exchange rates
          -Focus
                -Trade and tariff issues
                -International Monetary Fund [IMF]
                -Unilateral action
          -Devaluation of currencies
                -Yen
                      -World War II
                -Japan
                -The Netherlands
                -Switzerland
                -Belgium
          -US reaction to moves against the dollar
                -Difference in focus
          -State Department
                -Nathaniel Samuels
                -Group of Ten meeting
                      -Finance ministers
                      -Federal Reserve banks
          -Perceptions on jurisdiction and purview of Government departments
                -State and Treasury Departments
                      -Focus of negotiations
                      -Power of foreign ministers
                            -Compared to the Secretary of the Treasury
          -Fixed
                -State Department
                -Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
                -Treasury Department
                -Bankers
                -US strategy
                -Pressure on US
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


                      -Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak
          -Floating
                      -Japan
                           -Negotiations
-Trade
     -Textiles
           -Canada
                 -US concessions
     -Latin America
           -Reaction to surcharge
     -Canada
           -Tariff
                 -General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade [GATT]
                 -Connally's conversation with Volcker’s unknown counterpart
                       -Trade action
                             -Canadian Parliament
     -International reaction
           -Japanese, Canadians, British, French, Germans
                 -Perceptions of action
                       -American press
                 -Japanese public statements
                       -Surcharges
                 -Latin America, Canada, Mexico
                 -President’s position
                 -US strategy
     -Connally's lunch meeting with Henry A. Kissinger
     -Connally's conversation with Shultz
     -Negotiations
           -Strategy
           -State Department focus
                 -William P. Rogers
           -Treasury Department
           -Commerce Department
           -Handling by US
           -State Department
                 -Rogers
                 -Focus
                 -Ambassadors
           -Peter G. Peterson
           -Participants
                 -Connally
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


                        -Shultz, McCracken, Rogers
                  -Handling
                        -Need for negotiating team
                              -Peterson
                  -Latin American strategy
                        -Mexico, Brazil, Argentina
                        -Surcharge
                              -US assurances
                  -Handling of tariff situation
                        -EEC
                        -Japan
                        -Canada
                  -GATT
                  -Public relations
                        -International press
                        -New York Times, Washington Post
                        -Time, Newsweek, Life, Business magazines
                        -Television networks
                  -Connally's Conversation with Kissinger
                        -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer


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    INTELLIGENCE


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                       -Shultz, McCracken, Connally, Peterson
                       -Robert D. Murphy
                            -State Department
                                  -Manpower
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          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                      Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                        Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


                         -Resources
      -Projected action in trade relations
            -New bloc
                  -Connally’s conversation with the President and Kissinger
      -Japanese
            -Stance on future prospects
            -Kakuei Tanaka, Takeo Fukuda
      -Europe
            -Germany, Great Britain
      -EEC
-International monetary situation
      -US stance
            -Desire for order
            -The President, Connally, Shultz, Peterson
            -Arthur F. Burns, Rogers
                  -State Department
                         -Unknown person, Philip H. Trezise
            -Treasury Department
            -Volcker
            -Unknown person
            -Trezise
            -Burns
            -Volcker
            -Rogers
      -Burns
            -Views
            -Group of Ten
                  -Composition
                  -Strategy
      -Handling
      -Context
            -Political interests
            -Nature of decisions
                  -Responsibility
                  -Free trade
            -US compared with other nations
-President’s economic speech before Congress, September 9
      -Political considerations
      -Competition
-Connally’s visits abroad
-Connally’s view
                                       20

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


         -International monetary situation
               -Kissinger
               -US position compared to rest of the world
                     -Soviet Union, People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                          -Kissinger
               -Comments of Sino-Soviet experts
                     -Llewellyn E. (“Tommy”) Thompson, Jr. Charles E. (“Chip”)
Bohlen
               -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                     -Possible summit
         -Post-World War II period
               -Great Britain
               -Germany
               -Japan
               -Latin America
               -Idea of US world responsibility
         -US stance
               -Problems at home
         -Great Britain
               -Rolls Royce deal
               -Edward R.G. Heath
               -Perceptions
                     -Kissinger
                     -Peterson
                           -San Clemente meeting
                                 -Japan, Germany
                                      -Shultz’s view
               -Handling
                     -David M. Kennedy
                           -Fixed parity
                     -Burns
                           -European central banks
                                 -FRB
                     -Kissinger
                     -Shultz
                     -Peterson
                     -Connally
                     -Elliot L. Richardson
                           -Busing
                           -State Department
                     -Peter M. Flanigan
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


                          -Rogers

The economy
     -Staffing in international economic effort
           -Murphy, Robert Anderson-type person
           -Thomas C. Mann
           -Colvey T. Oliver
           -Mann
           -[Unintelligible name]
           -George W. Anderson, Jr.
           -Franklin D. Murphy
           -Establishment
                 -PRC initiative
                       -Soviet Union
                       -Japan
                             -C. Douglas Dillon
                             -Gordon Gray
                             -Coordination of situation
                                   -Peterson
                                   -Memorandum on Japanese negotiations
                                         -Revaluation
                 -Position of the US
                       -Soviet Union, PRC
                       -Japan, European countries
                       -Impact of changes in trade relations
                             -Japan
                                   -Supersonic Transport [SST]
                             -Canada, Mexico, Japan
                             -Europe
                             -Arab Countries
                             -Black Africa
                             -Australia
                             -Latin America
                             -Latin American divergence
                                   -Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia
                                   -Peru, Bolivia, Chile
                                   -Venezuela
                                         -Military aid
                       -Middle East
                             -Arabs
                                   -European relations
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                        Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)




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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 54s ]


    MIDDLE EAST


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                          -Organization of efforts


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    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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                                      -State Department and Defense Department
                                            -Frank F. Church
                                            -US military missions in foreign countries
         -President’s forthcoming press conference
               -Patrick J. Buchanan
                     -Connally’s testimony
               -Dollar exchange rates
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 568-9 (cont.)


          -Forthcoming action
               -Kissinger
               -Need for confidentiality
                    -State Department
               -US emissary
                    -Chile, Mexico
                    -Pierre Elliot Trudeau
                    -Kissinger
                    -Mann
                          -Latin America, Canada
                                -Abilities

     Hoyt Ammidon
          -Possible role with administration
          -Medal of Freedom

     Connally's schedule
         -Kennedy Center concert

     The economy
          -Wage and price freeze
          -Currency devaluation
          -Wage and price freeze
               -Forthcoming action
                    -Public opinion
                    -Timing
                    -Governor of Texas
               -Labor
                    -Administration stance
                    -Attitude

Connally and Haldeman left at an unknown time before 5:06 pm.