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Start Date: 14-Sep-1971 3:37 PM
End Date: 14-Sep-1971 4:40 PM
Participants:Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mansfield, Michael J. ("Mike"); Scott, Hugh; MacGregor, Clark;
Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:29:54
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:33:53
On September 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Michael J. ("Mike") Mansfield, Hugh Scott, and Clark MacGregor met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:37 pm to 4:40 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 572-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 572-12 Date: September 14, 1971 Time: 3:37 pm - 4:40 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Michael J. Mansfield, Hugh Scott, and Clark MacGregor. Greetings -Trips -Seating arrangements Mansfield's and Scott's European trip -Paris -Parliamentary meeting -Soviets -Adoption of Soviet amendments and resolutions -Length of stay -Soviet Union -Bulgaria -Romania -Henry A. Kissinger -Interviews -Mikhail Suslov -Message from Nicolae Ceausescu -Suslov -Space exploration -US-Soviet relations -US role worldwide Scheduling -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's conversation with Mansfield -The President's trip -Montana -Anchorage -Weather -Dates 31 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Mansfield's availability -Departures -Montana -Portland -Mansfield's role -Arrangements -Scheduled stops -Kalispell, Montana -Libby Dam construction -Location -Length of trip -The President's schedule -The President's schedule -Portland -Kalispell, Montana -Helicopters -Flight to Libby Dam -Hungry Horse -Glacier National Park -The President's visit -Libby Dam -Dedication ceremony -Newspaper story -Reservoir -Rexford, Montana -Canada -Treaty arrangement for construction -British Columbia -Dislocation of population The President's schedule -Montana -Portland -Anchorage -Length of trip -Mamie G.D. Eisenhower -Birthday -Fundraising -Eisenhower College -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon -Television show, "A Visit with the First Lady" 32 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -American Broadcasting Company [ABC] Domestic issues -Tax proposals -Senate -House of Representatives -Phase II -Bi-partisan Congressional leadership meeting -Date -Attendees -Committees -Wilbur D. Mills -Speech -Pennsylvania -State legislature -Note of regret to President -Wright Patman -Possible meeting with the President -Russell B. Long -The President's meetings on economic policy -Labor, management -Agriculture, consumer and business groups -Importance -Effectiveness -Bi-partisan, voluntary cooperation -Long -Puerto Rico -Schedule -Congressional session -Welfare reform -Revenue sharing -House of Representatives -Health bill -Government reorganization -John L. McClellan -Chet Holifield -Energy resources -Army Corps of engineers -Libby Dam -Bureau of Reclamation -Abraham A. Ribicoff 33 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Charles H. Percy -Support -Holifield -Jacob K. Javits -Policy committee meeting -Date -The President's economic proposals -Tom [Surname unknown], unknown person -List -Effect of the President's economic action -Appropriation bills -Welfare reform -Revenue sharing -Government reorganization -Mansfield's relationship with the President's administration -Senate -Presidential candidates -Legislation -Saigon Military service draft extension bill -The President's previous meeting with Gordon L. Allott -Attendance -Republican Congressional leadership meeting -Allott -Mansfield amendment addition -Senate version -House version -House of Representatives -Situation -F. Edward Hebert -Leslie C. Arends -Conference -Concessions -Delays -Hebert -Actions -Motion to table -Military pay -Senate amendment -Filibuster 34 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Participation -Cloture -Votes -Mansfield's action -Previous conversation with Scott -John C. Stennis -Military procurement -Cost of war -Taxes -Budget -Filibuster -Military pay -President’s comments to Allott -Lower ranks -Higher ranks -Draft -US role worldwide -Soviet Union -East-West relations -Developments -People’s Republic of China [PRC] visit -Arms talks -Leak -Accidental War Treaty -Announcement -Gerard C. Smith -Unknown General -Air Force Foreign relations -Dangers of leaks -Soviet Union -PRC announcement -Safeguarding of confidentiality -Reciprocity between nations -Nikita S. Khrushchev's remarks -Agreement on announcement -Soviets -Andrei A. Gromyko -Signing ceremony -Significance of agreement 35 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Accidental wars -Smaller countries -Development of nuclear capabilities -Accelerated hotline -Future developments Military service draft extension bill -Effects of passage of draft extension bill -Defense establishment -Need for draft -Reduction of armed forces -Mutual basis -Soviets -Unilateral reductions -Past experiences -Arms control -European security conference -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -Maintenance of negotiating position -Relations with the Soviet Union -Present status -PRC -Negotiations -Smith -Missiles -Future of Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR] -European security -Arms control -US position -Failure in passage of draft bill -Talks with soviets -Defense budgets -Passage -Negotiations -Filibuster -Motion to table -Return to conference -Filibuster -Cloture -Significant date -Negotiations 36 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Effects of passage of bill -The President's meeting with Mansfield and Scott Foreign relations -Forthcoming actions -Soviets -Diplomatic activity -Pierre Trudeau -Call to the President -Announcement of the President’s forthcoming trip to Canada -Timing -Soviet visit -Secretary of State [William P. Rogers] -Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew] -US -Handling of relations with other types of governments -The President -Kissinger -Negotiations for the President's visit to the PRC -The White House -The President, Chou En-lai, Mao Tse-tung -The Soviet Union -Diplomatic relations -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin -Kissinger -Rogers -Senate Foreign Relations Committee meeting -Five-Year Plan -Unknown person -Javits -Melvin R. Laird -Meeting with J. William Fulbright -Scott's talk with MacGregor -Possible actions -Laird's statement -Government groups -Contingency planning -Studies -Pentagon Papers -Lyndon B. Johnson -Department of Defense 37 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) International monetary policy -Mansfield's trip -Scandinavian countries -France -Italy -Morocco -Allies' reaction to US economic policy -The President's previous speech, September 9, 1971 -Kenneth E. BeLieu, Thomas C. Korologos -Rogers -Economic action -Quotation of the President's comments -White House meeting for Congressional leadership -Perceptions -The President's speech in Springfield Illinois -Extension of 90-day measures -Flotation of currencies -Mansfield's talk with Paul A. Volcker -Rome, Italy -Allies' reaction -US politics -Opposition -Support for the President's economic program -Need for program -Situation of the dollar -France -Effect of Mansfield statement -Allies' concerns -West German view -US economic measures -US actions -Foreign pressures -Return to old system -Modifications -Future crisis -Public posture -Temporary measures -Changes required -Temporary compared to permanent solution -Time required to achieve permanent 38 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) Solution -Japanese -Compared with Europeans -Negotiations -Actions on the yen -Business barriers -American businesses in Japan -US bargaining position -Europe -Germans -French -British -Dutch -Swiss -National interests -European action -Effect on US bargaining position -US position -US interests -Bargaining -Great Britain -Entrance into the common market -Economic unity -Population -US role -Protectionism -President’s view -National interest -World stability -Bargaining position -Europeans and Japanese -Germans -Latin America -Mexico -Africa -South Asia -Bretton Woods -Latin America -Treatment in comparison to rest of the world -Foreign aid exemption 39 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Amount -Foreign aid -Amount -Alliance for progress -Javits's question at leaders meeting, September 14, 1971 -New York City -Washington, DC -Effects from international traders', bankers', and Europeans' actions -Japanese actions -US past actions -Economic world -Changes -Need for new measures -US actions -Temporary measures -Permanent solution -Duration -Volcker's and Arthur F. Burns's views -The President's and John B. Connally's reaction -US interests -Trade -American market -Size -Agricultural products -The President's comments to farm leaders -Surcharge -Response by other countries -Productivity -Competition -Negotiations -Marshall Plan -Reciprocal trade -Changes in the world -US position -National interests -Trade competition -Austria -Marshall Plan -Machinery -Purchase -Switzerland 40 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Philadelphia -Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky -Comment about the US -Repayment -Internationalism and isolationism -Labor unions -President’s previous meeting with labor leaders -Surcharge -Competition -Cheap labor -Japan -Past position -Free traders -Present position -Protectionists -Increased productivity -Previous meeting -Robert C. McInturf [?] -Association of Farmers' Cooperatives -California -New labor contract -Automatic equipment -Tomatoes -Eli Whitney -Cotton gin -American agriculture -Charles M. Teague, Burt L. Talcott, Robert B. Mathias -Santa Barbara, Fresno, Salinas -Legislation -Transportation industry -Strikes -National interests -Impact on agriculture -The President's proposal [?] -Dock strike in Hawaii -Effect on Hawaii -Railroad strikes -Truckers -Changes needed -Future situation -Congress 41 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) Foreign relations -Mansfield's meeting with King Hassan II -Morocco -Internal situation -Message to the President -Greetings -Possible visit to US -Middle East -Other attendees -Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, Presidents of the Chamber of Representatives and the Chamber of Chancellors -Ernest F. (“Fritz”) Hollings -Nixon and Rogers's policy on the Middle East -Mansfield’s support -US involvement -Support for peace efforts -The President's action -Democrats -Support for President’s policy -Hollings ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 [National Security] [Duration: 28s ] SAUDI ARABIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 ************************************************************************** -Israel -Negotiating position -Relations with the US -Scott’s support 42 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Military aid -Jewish community -Influence -Economic position -Internal situation -"Black Panthers" -Asiatic Jews -Opposition -Younger Jews -Differences -Rogers's view -Mansfield’s and Scott’s trips -Compared with older generation -David Ben-Gurion -1967 war -Gen. Moshe Dayan -Golda Meir -Nationalists -Menachem begin -Meir -Vice Premier -Congress's relations to Israeli government -Strategy -Jordanian crisis -US response -Moroccan officials -Morocco -Situation North Africa -The President's visits -Morocco -Land of contrasts -Casablanca -Marrakesh -Winston S. Churchill -Compared to Montana -Tourism -Spain The President's schedule 43 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 572-12 (cont.) -Trip to Montana -Oregon Military service draft extension bill -Importance, timing Mansfield, Scott and MacGregor left at 4:40 pm.