Conversation: 574-009
Prev: 574-008 Next: 574-010Start Date: 17-Sep-1971 11:45 AM
End Date: 17-Sep-1971 12:01 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kemp, Jack F.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; [Unknown person(s)];Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:53:43
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:08:36
NARA Description:
On September 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Jack F. Kemp, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:45 am to 12:01 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 574-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 574-9
Date: September 17, 1971
Time: 11:45 am - 12:01 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Jack F. Kemp and Alexander M. Haig, Jr
Greetings
The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 11:45 am and 12:01
pm.
[Conversation No. 574-9A]
Vote
-Status
-Timing
[End of telephone conversation]
Greetings
Seating
Southeast Asia
Kemp's trip to Vietnam and Laos
-Plain of jars
-Paul N. McCloskey, Jr.
-Comments
-Loatian attitudes
-Father Manger
-McCloskey
-Helicopter ride
-Kemp’s conversations
-Return to villages
-Pathet Lao
-North Vietnamese
-Speeches
-Herbert G. Klein
-New Hampshire
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.)
-Kemp's conversation with Haig
-McCloskey
-Statements
-Kemp’s view of accuracy
-Impact
-US role
-Kemp's trip
-Interviews with leaders of villages
-Refugees
-North Vietnam, Pathet Lao compared to Laos
-Cambodia
-Laos
-US
-McCloskey’s arguments
-Future political situation
-Prospects
-Dinner
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-National Football League [NFL] football tour of Vietnam, 1968
-Bart Starr, Lance Alworth
-Tet offensive
-Kemp’s meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu
-Presidential elections in Saigon
-Kemp’s reaction
-Misunderstanding
-Thieu
-The President’s statement
-US stance towards South Vietnamese government
-Ngo Dinh Diem
-Death
-Thieu
-Democracy
-American
-British
-Status of aid
-Foreign countries
-Non-contested elections
-Percentage of world
-Elections in South Vietnam
-Opponents of Thieu
43
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.)
-Situation
-Diem
-Referendum
-US position
-Status of aid
-Compared to Africa
-Aid
-Contested elections
-Presidents
-Prime ministers
-State Department
-Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
-Vietnamization
-George S. McGover
-Shopping
-Photograph
-1968
-Comments
-Arming
-Commerce
-Growth
-Building
-Saigon
Congress
-President’s legislative program
-Kemp’s support
-Kemp’s district
-Percentage of Catholics
-Kemp’s Anglo-Saxon background
-Jewish constituency
-Sale of [Phantom] jets to Israel
-Parochial schools
-Catholics
-New York
-Number of children
-Money
-Amount
-New money
-Building schools
-Facilities
44
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.)
-Attendance
-Schools open
-Supreme Court decision
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 24s ]
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National defense
-National defense funding
-Conservatives
-Strategy
-Anti-ballistic missile [ABM]
-Military service draft issue
-Vote
-US position in the world
-Negotiations
-USSR
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Stance
-Possible elimination
-Volunteer army
-Timing
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.)
Foreign relations
-Israelis
-Kemp’s Jewish Constituents
-Type of government
-USSR
-Balance of power
-Jet sales to Israel
-Position in relation to the US
-Kemp’s role of a member of Congress
-Comparison with the role of the President
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 27s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Football
-Washington Redskins
-Billy Kilmer
-Passing ability
-Comparison to Christian A. (ΑSonny≅) Jurgenson
-Background
-University of Southern California at Los Angeles [UCLA]
-New Orleans
-Brent Sanders
-Minnesota Vikings
-Loss of quarterback
-Joe Kapp
-Baltimore Colts
-Earl Morrall
-Buffalo Bills
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.)
-Dennis Shaw
-Background
-San Diego State University
-Don Horn
-Green Bay Packers
-Denver Broncos
-Buffalo Bills
-Shaw
The President’s schedule
-Buffalo
-Terence Cardinal Cooke
-Anniversary of diocese
-Invitation to the President
-Time
Gifts
The President’s schedule
-Dwight L. Chapin
-The President's possible attendance
Kemp and Haig left at 12:01 pm.