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Start Date: 20-Sep-1971 5:04 PM

End Date: 20-Sep-1971 5:12 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:26:10

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:53:18

577a.mp3

577b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:04 pm to 5:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 577-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 577-16

Date: September 20, 1971
Time: 5:04 pm - 5:12 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[Conversation No. 577-16A]

[See Conversation No. 9-99; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

Henry A. Kissinger entered after 5:05 pm.


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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)




[End of telephone conversation]

     Vietnam negotiations
          -National Security Council [NSC] meeting
                -Spiro T. Agnew
                -William P. Rogers
          -Status
          -Revelations
                -Effect
                -The President's speech on October 7, 1971

     PRC initiative
         -Summit trip to the PRC
                -Announcement
                     -Possible date
         -Hanoi
                -Nikolai V. Podgorny
         -Trip
                -Date options
                     -Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters
                -Kissinger's schedule
                     -Trip itinerary
                           -Hawaii, Shanghai, Peking
                     -Effect on negotiations
                -Date of negotiating session
                     -Agreement between the US and the PRC
                -Dates
                     -Order of dates
                     -Flexibility of dates
                     -Podgorny
                           -Hanoi, Soviet Union

     Soviet Union
          -Summit meeting with the President
               -Announcement
                     -Timing
          -Podgorny
               -Announcement timing
          -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                                          34

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 577-16 (cont.)



Vietnam
     -Air strikes
           -Time
           -Target
     -Petroleum, oil and lubricants [POL] dumps
     -Cambodia
           -Target
                 -Time
     -Air strikes
           -Weather
                 -Date
     -Targets
     -Weather factor
     -Number of planes
           -Minimum
           -Maximum
     -Negotiations
           -Agnew
           -Rogers
           -Melvin R. Laird
                 -Knowledge
     -Casualties
           -Number
           -Effect on negotiations
           -Hanoi
     -Blockade
           -Soviet Union
           -PRC
     -Soviet Union
     -Egon Bahr
           -Cable
                 -Leonid I. Brezhnev
           -Comments about the President
                            -Détente
                                  -Leaks
                       -The President's trip to the PRC
                                         35

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 577-16 (cont.)


PRC initiative
    -Political attitudes within the US
           -Right wing
                -PRC trip

Vietnam
     -The President's statement
           -Foreign policy
     -The President's Administration
           -Unified Government
                 -Laird
     -Alternatives In Vietnam
           -Thieu
           -Communism
     -Ngo Dinh Diem
           -Effect on US in negotiations
     -Soviet Union, PRC
     -Negotiations
           -Effect of US military actions
                 -"Menu" air strike
                 -Cambodia
                 -Laos
                 -Military standpoint
                 -Diplomatic effect
                 -PRC trip
                 -Laos
                       -Compared to Cambodia
     -North Vietnamese
           -Date
                 -Balance of negotiations
           -Laos and Cambodia
                 -Attacks
                       -Timing on negotiations
                             -Laos
     -Helms
           -Timing of attacks in Vietnam
                 -Date
     -Air strikes
     -Military action
           -Timing
                 -Soviet announcement
                                   36

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                         Conv. No. 577-16 (cont.)


          -US election
          -Effect on US-PRC and US-Soviet negotiations
-US goals
-Verdun Battle during World War I
-The President's possible policy in 1965
      -Bombing
            -Escalation
            -Targets
                  -Locations
                        -Compared to World War II
      -Date
-US position in negotiations
      -Speculation
            -Foreign policy
            -Domestic policy
                  -Effect on the Administration
-Effect on US domestic policy
      -Saigon
-Communist rule
-Kissinger's memorandum
      -Peace talks
      -Election
      -Bombing halt
            -Time duration
-South Vietnam
      -Projected status
            -North Vietnam
      -Laird
            -Military supplies
                  -Equipment
            -Congress's possible action
            -Military Supplies
                  -North Vietnam
                        -Offensive
                  -Tanks
                        -Laos
-Prisoner of war [POW] issue
      -Bombing
      -Effect of re-election of the President
-Effect of election on the North Vietnamese
      -Soviet Union
                                              37

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 577-16 (cont.)


                -Defeat of the President in election
                -Re-election of the President
                      -Polls
                      -Effect on negotiations
                            -North Vietnam position
                -1968 election
                      -North Vietnam
                      -Bombing halt prior to 1968 election
                      -Clark M. Clifford
                      -W. Averell Harriman
                      -John N. Mitchell
                            -Conversation with Kissinger
                      -Bombing halt
                            -North Vietnam position
                                  -Attitude toward the President
                                  -Defeat
                                        -Victory
           -1972 election
                -Polls
                      -Re-election of the President
                            -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] agreement
                            -Summits with the PRC and the Soviet Union
                            -European summit
                -Campaign
                      -Public news
                            -Public reaction
                -Economy
           -George H. Gallup polls
           -Louis P. Harris polls
           -Gallup Polls
                -The President's position
                      -Percentage

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Meeting with Dobrynin
                -Forthcoming call to the President

Kissinger left at 5:33 pm