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Conversation: 585-001

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Start Date: 5-Oct-1971 3:03 PM

End Date: 5-Oct-1971 3:26 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Swim, DudleyFlanigan, Peter M.White House photographerSanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.Huntsman, Jon M.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:01:09

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:23:25

585a.mp3

585b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Dudley Swim, Peter M. Flanigan, White House photographer, Manolo Sanchez, Stephen B. Bull, and Jon M. Huntsman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:03 pm to 3:26 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 585-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 585-1

Date: October 5, 1971
Time: 3:03 pm - 3:26 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Dudley Swim, Peter M. Flanigan, Jon M. Huntsman, and the White
House photographer.

     Salutations
          -Unintelligible name

     Picture taking
           -Huntsman

     National Airlines
          -Merger plans

The White House photographer left at an unknown time after 3:03 pm.

                -Northwest Airlines
                     -Harold B. Scott
                     -The President's travel experiences
                          -Japan
                          -Minnesota
                     -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo

     Supreme Court nominees
          -Swim’s view

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:03 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:26 pm.

     Reference to unnamed individual

     Supreme Court nominees
          -Political affiliation
                -Clement F. Haynsworth, Jr.
                      -Senate hearings
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 585-1 (cont.)


                -John N. Mitchell
                -Leon Jaworski
                     -American Bar Association [ABA]

     Education
         -Courts
               -Need for legislation
               -California
                     -Jurisdiction
                     -Supreme Court
                           -Warren E. Burger, Harry A. Blackmun, Potter Stewart
                                 -Views
                           -William O. Douglas
               -Education system
                     -Interference from the courts
                     -Socialization
                           -Swim’s view
                     -Lawyers
                     -Importance
         -Private enterprise role
               -Contracting
               -Capacities
               -Expenses
         -Swim's membership on a California state board
         -Financing
               -California
               -Bank credit
         -Student demands on faculty

     Education
         -Growth industry

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:03 pm.

     [Unintelligible]

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:26 pm.
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 585-1 (cont.)


          -Swim's schedule
          -Use of the campus
          -Private schools
                -Possible impact their closure would have
                -Uniqueness
                      -Jewish, Catholic, atheist, Christian Scientist, Mormon
                -Educators
                      -Stanford University
          -Nobel prizes
                -Sweden
                -Possibility of American prizes
                      -Art and music
                             -Modern art
                             -1890's
                             -Victor Herbert
                             -Leonard Bernstein
          -Rebirth of spirit
                -Postage stamps
                -New York, San Francisco
                -Private enterprise

     Presentation of gifts
          -Cufflinks

Swim, Flanigan, and Huntsman left at 3:26 pm.