Conversation: 587-003
Prev: 587-002 Next: 587-005Start Date: 8-Oct-1971 10:04 AM
End Date: 8-Oct-1971 10:47 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:14:55
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:57:55
NARA Description:
On October 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:04 am to 10:47 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 587-003 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 587-3
Date: October 8, 1971
Time: 10:04 am - 10:47 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John N. Mitchell and John D. Ehrlichman.
Greetings
-Economy speech
-Speech writers
-Audience
-Television
-Effect
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 587-3 (cont.)
Supreme Court appointments
-Robert C. Byrd
-The President’s previous conversation with Ehrlichman
-Russell B. Long
-Possible problem
-The President’s view
-Thurgood Marshall
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[Duration: 23s ]
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-James O. Eastland
-Long’s previous conversation with Eastland
-Possible positions
-The President’s view
-Mitchell’s view
-Editorial support
-The South
-Liberals
-David Brinkley
-Village Voice
-Byrd
-Possible future appointee
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:04 am.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:46 am.
-Southern support
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 587-3 (cont.)
-Eastland
-The President’s view
-Potter Stewart
-Pentagon Papers case
-Mitchell's knowledge of the family
-Harry F. Byrd, Jr.
-Law background
-American Bar Association [ABA]
-Potential problems
-Submission
-Felix Frankfurter
-Possible pressures for appointment
-The President’s view
-Herschel H. Friday
-Baker
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 1m 13s ]
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-Robert C. Byrd
-Mitchell’s view
-Friday
-Background
-ABA
-Warren E. Burger
-House of Delegates
-Law clients
-Missouri Pacific Railroad
-School board
-Telephone company
-Charles Clark
-[Forename unknown] Johnson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 587-3 (cont.)
-James S. Coleman
School busing
-Problems
-The President’s view
-Robert P. Griffin
-Legislation
-Baker
-Eastland
-Constitutional amendment hearings
-Alternatives to Constitutional amendment
-Legislation
-14th Amendment
-Compared with wiretapping legislation
-Busing for racial balance
-Possibility of passage
-Eastland hearings
-Constitutional amendment
-Baker and William W. Brock, III
-Carl B. Albert
-Potential problems for the President
-Education
-Federal funds
-Elementary and secondary schools
-Board of Education
-Integration
-Freedom of choice
-William Jennings Bryant
-The President's understanding
-Possibility of passage of Constitutional amendment
-Nathan Glazer article
-Richard J. Hernstein
-Coleman
-The President’s position
-Legislation
-Supreme Court ruling
-Massachusetts and Michigan ratification
-California ratification
-Seattle, Washington case
-Decision
-Support for the President's position
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 587-3 (cont.)
-Baker
-Brock
The President's schedule
-Announcement
Supreme Court appointment announcement
-Timing
-Friday
-Mildred L. Lillie
-Chief Justice Warren E. Burger
-ABA
-Superior Court
-California Supreme Court
-Byrd
-Sylvia Bacon
-Background
-Compared with Lillie
-William H. Rehnquist
-Possible nomination
-Benefits and problems
Crime control
-John B. Connally
-Meeting between Connally, Mitchell, and the President
-Saturday night specials
-Possible question
-Drug situation
-Myles J. Ambrose, Eugene T. Rossides
-The President's schedule
-Connally
-Mitchell's schedule
-Gun laws
-Saturday night special handgun
-National Rifle Association [NRA]
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Charles W. Colson
-The President’s position
-Relationship between Justice Department and Treasury Department
-Rossides
-Ehrlichman
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 587-3 (cont.)
-Connally
-Rossides
-Rogers Council [?]
-Future meeting
-John E. Ingersoll
-Ambrose
-Conflicts
[A transcript of the following portion of the conversation may be found in Record Group [RG]
460, Box 58, pp. 1-8]
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:04 am during the transcribed portion.
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:46 am during the transcribed portion.
Ehrlichman and Mitchell left at 10:46 am.
[End of transcribed portion]
The President left at an unknown time before 10:47 am.