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Start Date: 13-Oct-1971 11:06 AM

End Date: 13-Oct-1971 12:02 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Washington, Walter E.Wilson, Jerry V.Ehrlichman, John D.Krogh, Egil ("Bud"), Jr.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:15:53

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:12:39

590a.mp3

590b.mp3

590c.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Walter E. Washington, Jerry V. Wilson, John D. Ehrlichman, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:06 am to 12:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 590-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 590-3

Date: October 13, 1971
Time: 11:06 am - 12:02 pm
Location: Oval Office

Stephen B. Bull met with Mayor Walter E. Washington, Jerry V. Wilson, John D. Ehrlichman,
and Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.

     Washington, DC
         -Drugs
              -Addiction rate

The President entered at an unknown time after 11:06 am.

     Greetings

     Washington Redskins
         -Washington Senators
         -Fans
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/10)
                                                              Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)



Baseball
     -Possible team for Washington, DC
          -Cleveland Indians
                 -Vernon Stouffer
          -Chicago White Sox
          -San Diego Padres
          -C. Arnholt Smith
          -White Sox
          -Joseph Danzansky
                 -Buzzy Bavasi
                      -Padres
          -Tuchel [?]
          -Edward Bennet Williams
          -Mayor Washington's activities
                 -Editors
                      -[Forename unknown] Kaye [?]
                      -John (“Jack”) H. Kaufmann
                      -Raymond F. Mack
                 -American Security Bank
                      -Robert C. Baker
     -Kansas City Royals
          -Possible application for Washington
                 -Season tickets sales
                      -Oakland Athletics
                      -Royals
                      -Milwaukee Brewers
                            -The President’s view
     -Television revenues

Redskins
    -George E. Allen
           -Conversation with the President at San Clemente
           -Conversation with Mayor Washington
     -Houston Oilers game
     -St. Louis Cardinals
     -Allen

Washington, DC
    -Crime
         -Statistics
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/10)
                                                               Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


          -Bicentennial
          -Crime
                -Washington’s view
          -Profits
                -Woodies
                -Raleigh's
                -Hecht's
                -Garfinckel's
                -Banks
                -F. Street
                -Saltz Haberdasher
          -Downtown redevelopment
                -The Mall
                -Transportation
          -McLean Gardens
                -Park Fairfax community
                -Hartford Insurance
                -Fairmack Developers
          -Inland Steel Company
                -Georgetown waterfront
          -Police Department
                -John N. Mitchell

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:06 am.

     Refreshments

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:42 am.

     Washington, DC
         -Crime statistics
              -Chief Wilson
              -New York
              -Price Waterhouse
              -Peat Marwick
              -Lybrand Ross
              -Booz Allen
              -Compared with 1968
         -Accomplishments
              -Mitchell
              -Washington’s memorandum
                                   21

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/10)
                                                             Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


            -Administration’s assistance to Washington, DC
            -Police
            -Drugs
                  -Treatment centers
      -Lighting of downtown buildings
            -Sodium vapor lights
-Crime
      -Racial make-up
            -Los Angeles
                  -Watts neighborhood
            -Chicago
                  -South Side neighborhood
            -New York
                  -Harlem
                  -Bedford-Stuyvesant
            -Washington, DC
      -Police programs
            -Officer Friendly Program
            -Crime stoppers
-Joel T. Broyhill
-Baseball team
      -Importance
      -San Diego
      -Cleveland
            -Stouffer
            -Lakefront stadium
                  -Attendance
      -Williams, Danzansky
            -Chicago White Sox
      -Robert E. Short
            -Allen
            -Youth programs
            -Los Angeles Dodgers
            -Redskins
      -Importance
            -Bicentennial celebration
      -Possible expansion
      -National distribution
            -California
                  -San Diego
                  -San Francisco Giants
                                                 22

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/10)
                                                                    Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


                          -Oakland
                               -Toronto
              -Robert Wilson's call to Washington
                    -Use of public funds
          -New directions
              -Tourism
              -Investment
              -F Street
                    -Sales
              -Convention Center
                    -Location
                    -Washington Hilton
                    -Washington Coliseum
                    -John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
                    -Chicago's McCormick Place
                    -Washington, DCArmory
              -Mall
                    -Skidmore, Owings, Merrill
                    -Union Station facilities
              -Wisconsin Avenue
                    -Hartford Insurance
                    -Neiman-Marcus
                          -Zoning battle
                          -Mayor Washington's talk with Stanley Marcus
              -Lighting downtown
                    -Safety
              -Daniel P. Moynihan

Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 11:06 am.

     Photographs

Press left at an unknown time before 11:42 am.

     Sports
          -Advertisements on televistion
               -Drugs
               -Allen
               -Washington Star
               -The President's letters of appreciation
          -Redskins
                                             23

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/10)
                                                               Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


               -Vincent T. Lombardi
               -Allen

     Mayor Washington's administration

     Publicity on Wahington, DC's accomplishments
          -Criminal justice system

Washington, Wilson and Krogh left at 11:42 am.

     Chief Wilson
          -Mitchell's conversation with Ehrlichman
               -Resignation

     The President's schedule

     Washington, DC
         -Federal money
              -Crime
              -Budget

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:42 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with Masons

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:02 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 43s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/10)
                                                          Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


Supreme Court appointments
     -Importance of speed
           -Problem with publicity
           -Bar investigation
           -Mitchell
     -Timing of submitting names
           -The President’s view
           -Bar association
                 -Names
     -Timing of announcements of nominees
     -Mildred L. Lillie
     -Herschel H. Friday
     -Investigation
           -William H. Rehnquist
           -Mitchell
     -Question of clients
           -Friday
                 -School boards
                 -G. Harrold Carswell
                       -Speech
           -Sam J. Ervin, Jr.
     -Friday
           -Warren E. Burger
           -Possible problems
           -Edward H. Levi
     -William J. Brennan, Jr.
           -Hugo L. Black
                 -Eulogy
     -Friday
           -Length of practice
     -Lillie
           -Judicial experience
     -Friday
           -Experience
                 -Federal court clerkship
           -Law teacher
     -Lillie’s background
           -Compared with Justices of the Court
                 -Trial experience
                 -William O. Douglas
                 -Byron R. (“Whizzer”) White
                                        25

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/10)
                                                                  Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


                -Brennan
                       -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                -Burger
                -Harry A. Blackmun
                -Potter Stewart
          -Experience
    -American Bar Association [ABA]
          -Feeling toward criminal decisions
                -Miranda v. Arizona Decision
                       -Earl Warren
    -Lillie
          -Experience with court of original jurisdiction
                -Possibility of strengthening the Court
                       -The President’s records for appointment
                             -Statement
                       -Judicial reform
          -Woman
          -Use of married name
                -Italian
                       -Sons of Italy
                             -John A. Volpe
                                   -Judge George A. Tesoro
          -Age
                -Possible tenure
                -Friday’s age

Appointments
    -Arthur A. Fletcher
         -Replacement
               -Charles W. Colson
         -Philadelphia
               -James D. Hodgson
                     -Nominee
                          -Ford Motor Company
                          -United Auto Workers [UAW]
         -Colson
               -Question of black appointee
                     -Building trades unions
                          -Hodgson
         -Robert P. Griffin
               -Nominee
                                              26

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/10)
                                                                    Conv. No. 590-3 (cont.)


                -Question of black appointee
                -Requirements for replacement
                     -Colson’s view
                     -The President’s view
                     -Hodgson
                     -George P. Shultz
                     -Civil rights support
                     -Labor leadership

Stephen B. Bull entered at 12:02 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with Scottish Rite Masonic leaders
          -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

Ehrlichman and Bull left at 12:02 pm.