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Start Date: 18-Oct-1971 12:01 PM

End Date: 18-Oct-1971 12:35 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rogers, William P.Finch, Robert H.White House photographerBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:42:54

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:16:30

594a.mp3

594b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, Robert H. Finch, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:01 pm to 12:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 594-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 594-5
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 594-4 (cont.)


Date: October 18, 1971
Time: 12:01 pm - 12:35 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William P. Rogers and Robert H. Finch.
[Press photographers and White House photographers were present at the beginning of this
meeting]

     Salutations

     The President's schedule
          -Fort Detrick
                -Cancer initiative

     Baseball
          -World Series
               -Tony Kubek
          -Attendance

     Rogers

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:01 pm.

     The President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:20 pm.

     Finch's schedule
          -Mexico

Bull returned with photographers at an unknown time after 12:01 pm.

Bull and photographers left at an unknown time before 12:20 pm.

     Finch
          -Rogers
               -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

     Mrs. Nixon's forthcoming trip to Africa
          -William R. Tolbert, Jr.
          -Visit to Liberia
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 594-5 (cont.)


          -Tolbert and the president
          -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
          -Mrs. Nixon
     -Possible visit to other African countries
     -Nigeria
          -Spiro T. Agnew
     -Ghana
          -Mrs. Nixon’s previous visit
     -Timing of announcement
          -Graham
     -Nigeria
     -Possible itinerary
          -Possible events

Finch’s forthcoming trip
     -Length
     -Mexico
     -Argentina
     -Ecuador
     -Brazil
     -Panama
     -Peru
     -Argentina
     -Ecuador
           -Fishing
     -Venezuela
     -Columbia
           -Bogota
     -Meetings
           -Organization of American States [OAS]
                 -Tourism
                 -Highways
           -Quito
     -The President's experience
           -Panama
           -Dwight D. Eisenhower
     -Henry A. Kissinger
           -International Highway Association
           -Commerce
           -Department of Transportation
     -Size of delegation
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 594-5 (cont.)


                -State
                -Companies
                      -Freestone, Del Monte
                -Technical assistance
                      -Disease
                           -Pan American health organization
                           -Surgeon general
           -Argentina

     Demographics
         -Cabinet Committee on Spanish-Speaking [CCOSS] population
               -Chicago, New York
                      -Gerrymandering
         -Illegal aliens
               -California
                      -Otis Chandler
               -Pay scales
                      -Romano A. Banuelos
                      -Philip V. Sanchez
                      -Chandler

     Hispanic Americans
          -Democrats
          -Support for the President


     Finch's forthcoming trip to Latin America
          -Expectations
                 -Class structure
          -Future American plans toward Latin America
          -Finch’s status as the President's personal representative

     Imelda Marcos
          -Schedule
          -Ferdinand E. Marcos
          -Relatives
          -Business deal

Finch left at 12:20 pm.

     US foreign relations
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 594-5 (cont.)


          -Controversy
               -Adam Malik
               -Kissinger
               -Conservatives
          -Meeting
               -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
          -White House position
               -George H. W. Bush
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -Bush
               -Speech, October 18, 1971
          -Chou En-Lai

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:20 pm.

     The President's schedule

     Photograph
          -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:35 pm.

     US foreign relations
          -Rogers's schedule
               -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] meeting
                      -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                           -Kissinger
                                 -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                      -European security conference
                           -Rogers’ role
                           -Scheduling
                           -Press
                           -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT]
                           -Campaign
                                 -Television
                           -Iceland
                           -Compared with Kissinger for PRC
          -Kissinger's PRC trip
               -Discussions
          -USSR trip
               -Press
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 594-5 (cont.)


                     -Ziegler
                     -Numbers involved
         -PRC trip


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             -Communications
             -Press
             -Size of official party
                    -Secretaries
                    -Compared with trip to USSR
                    -Alfred Les. Jenkins
                    -Dwight L. Chapin
                          -Television personnel
                          -Wire services
                          -News magazines
                          -New York Times
                          -Washington Post
                          -Television
         -USSR trip
             -Press
                    -Chinese
             -SALT
             -Middle East
             -Trade
             -Salt
             -European security agreement
             -Rogers
                    -Andrei A. Gromyko
                    -PRC
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 594-5 (cont.)


                      -Middle East
                      -Salt
                      -Press
                      -Kissinger
                            -PRC trip
                      -Scheduling
           -Statement
                 -Ziegler

     Bush's forthcoming speech

Rogers left at 12:35 pm.