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Start Date: 18-Oct-1971 3:11 PM

End Date: 18-Oct-1971 3:45 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ellsworth, Robert F.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ellsworth, Robert F.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:41:53

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:16:03

595a.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Robert F. Ellsworth, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:11 pm to 3:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 595-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 595-7

Date: October 18, 1971
Time: 3:11 pm - 3:45 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Robert F. Ellsworth and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.


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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 595-7 (cont.)



     North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] ambassadorship
          -Appointment of ambassador
               -Manlio Brosio
               -Criteria
                     -Ellsworth’s view
                     -The President's confidence
                           -Henry A. Kissinger
                           -Haig
                     -Understanding of Washington bureaucracy

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 3:11 pm.

     Refreshments delivered

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:45 pm.

     NATO
        -Appointment of Ambassador
            -Concerns
                 -Balanced force reductions
                 -European Security Conference
                 -British entry
                 -Soviet Union
                 -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                 -Great power condominium
            -Career personnel
                 -The President’s view
            -David M. Kennedy
                 -Textile treaty
                 -Treasury Department
                 -State Department
                 -The President’s view
                 -Treasury Department
                       -National Security Council [NSC]
                       -Defense Department
                             -Troops
                                  -Funding
            -Congressmen or Senators
                 -F. Bradford Morris
                       -The President’s view
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                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 595-7 (cont.)


          -Military
                -Politics
          -David M. Kennedy
                -Melvin R. Laird
          -Present acting ambassador to NATO, George Best
                -Background
                      -Supreme Allied Commander, Europe [SACEUR]
                            -Gen. Lauris Norstad
                      -Dirk U. Stikker
                      -Common Market
                      -John R. Schaetzel
                      -Experience
                      -Ellsworth’s view
                -Haig, Kissinger
                -Europeans
          -Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
     -Requirements
     -Concerns
          -Détente
                -Soviet Union
                      -European Security Conference
                            -Common market
                      -Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
                      -Strategy

Europeans
     -Soviet Union
     -US European policy
     -Southeast Asia
     -PRC

Ellsworth's travels
     -Eastern Europe
           -Moscow
                 -Jacob D. Beam
           -Western Europe

NATO
   -Concerns
        -Greece and Turkey
        -Southeastern Europe
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 595-7 (cont.)


           -Yugoslavia
               -Josip Broz Tito

Ellsworth's possible government service
     -Possible role
     -Ambassador
           -Textile negotiations
     -Arms control
           -Arms Control Advisory Group
           -John J. McCloy committee
                 -Washington
                 -George A. Smathers
                 -Earle G. (“Bus”) Wheeler
           -Europeans
           -Anti-ballistic Missile [ABM] Treaty
           -Members of McCloy committee
           -New York Times
     -NATO experience
     -United Nations [UN]
           -The President’s view
     -Peter M. Flanigan
     -Envoy to inaugurations, funerals
           -John B. Connally
                 -Vietnam
           -Flanigan
           -Kissinger
     -Supreme Court
           -Thurgood Marshall
           -William J. Brennan
           -John N. Mitchell

Ellsworth's past service as ambassador
     -Kissinger
     -Haig
     -Brosio

Appointments
    -Japan
         -Armin H. Meyer
         -New York businessmen
             -George Champion
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 595-7 (cont.)


           -Requirement for job

Us foreign relations
     -US and PRC
     -US and Soviet Union
           -Ellsworth’s view
           -MBFR
           -European security conference

Personnel
     -US ambassador to Italy
          -Graham A. Martin
               -Brosio
               -The President's visit
                    -Bangkok
                          -Taiwan
     -US ambassador to Germany
          -[David] Kenneth Rush
     -US ambassador to Italy

US foreign affairs
     -Greece
          -British
          -George Papadopoulos
                 -Ellsworth’s view
                      -US
                      -Soviet Union
                      -Political fortunes

Economy
    -Price Commission
          -William W. Scranton
          -Ellsworth
                -Arms Control Commission

Ellsworth
     -Previous service
     The President's schedule
     -New York

New York
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 595-7 (cont.)


           -Greenwich, Connecticut
           -West Side compared with East Side

     Gift presentation

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 3:11 pm.

           -Money Clip

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:45 pm.

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:11 pm.

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:45 pm.

The President, Ellsworth and Haig left at 3:45 pm.