Nixon, Woods & Poff on Kennedy Center and John Connally

2:25:07Well, what do you hear?
2:25:08What?
2:25:09I was listening all the time.
2:25:10Oh, all right.
2:25:11I was glad to go to her, sis.
2:25:13Marry him.
2:25:18What?
2:25:18Well, you know, it's a terrible thing.
2:25:22Senator, she told me all about it.
2:25:23That girl, Willie McCartney, who loved Blair, is, uh, you know, what I mean?
2:25:26We're trying to... Can't we get rid of him?
2:25:29We can't.
2:25:30We're not sure.
2:25:33I was just going to tell you.
2:25:34I thought you were going to add that to the reason why I was teasing you.
2:25:59I think they will.
2:26:00I really think they will.
2:26:01Because the Kennedy family, last Saturday night, I think, and so does everyone in town, they used to know it were their home.
2:26:08Last Saturday night.
2:26:10They had the Kennedy Foundation around them, and they had their big... What did they do with that?
2:26:15They had the Kennedy Foundation meeting and awarding prizes and all that.
2:26:20They used the Kennedy Center for that.
2:26:22And so, they treated it so well.
2:26:25I had someone to check that, see if they paid for all that stuff.
2:26:30We ought to listen to, you know, it's a... Of course.
2:26:33It's a beautiful thing down there on the road, isn't it?
2:26:38We have a... We have a...
2:26:40Frankly, there should be some action there.
2:26:42I know.
2:26:42I didn't want to sit there and...
2:26:46I think, oh, it's really terrible what they're doing.
2:26:49And they do.
2:26:50They're hiring people and everything.
2:26:54Oh, they're so bad.
2:26:55Is anyone here in Denmark?
2:26:58Christ, we're horrible.
2:27:06He's a no good son of a bitch.
2:27:07But we're working on it, we're working on it.
2:27:14He's trying to get the weight, all the work he's trying to get players to keep, to get him drawn out.
2:27:21And we get somebody else in, we gotta get somebody, but I told Bob and Mandy, I wanna be sure that Lennon and Nancy Hanks also play that game, you know, cause they could,
2:27:36He says they do.
2:27:38He says they are on exactly the same side.
2:27:40Absolutely.
2:27:41Absolutely.
2:27:41You know what I mean?
2:27:42Because I just wondered, because this is, I don't know, let's plan for that.
2:27:46Okay.
2:27:47Well, I mean, I guess, because I'm sure that on our side of the thing, I'm sure that some of it is not good.
2:28:00Well, you know, a teammate, maybe he sounds, you know, sometimes I think he tries to be, sounds taller than they are.
2:28:07And also, he doesn't want to be cornered.
2:28:09You know, he probably doesn't know Mrs. Mary as well, as far as whether she would quote him.
2:28:17But we can sure find out.
2:28:20Somebody else probably didn't.
2:28:40Is this the next place?
2:28:43Well, she is.
2:28:44She's our friend today.
2:28:48But, uh, so John here, the guy, he's gonna be working in the barn.
2:28:57Well, maybe he is the one.
2:28:58I don't know.
2:28:59I don't have to go out very often.
2:29:03I mean, the Knights are so damn hard.
2:29:07Now we've got these five coming up, but this is just those days.
2:29:11Well, they're not as hard.
2:29:12Really, I mean, it's the ones where you have to go out to the mall, right?
2:29:21I know, I know.
2:29:24But it's been so long since last night and everything.
2:29:55So I wanted to congratulate you.
2:29:56I would have mentioned it at the meeting this morning.
2:30:00You're the only member of Congress or the Senate who celebrates birthday today.
2:30:10So, yeah.
2:30:11Well, anyway, I just hope you figure out that the political world is the rest of my life.
2:30:18Okay, yeah.
2:30:20All right, good.
2:30:23Give my best to your ma'am.
2:30:25Bye.
2:30:25But two or three people told me it was rather long.
2:30:33Lenin told me he couldn't hear.
2:30:35It was very hard to hear.
2:30:39I see.
2:30:39He goes to that reception afterwards.
2:30:41You know, everything was black but long.
2:30:43Well, the reception was only 40 people.
2:30:46Well, they go to him, too.
2:30:48He may have been 40, I don't know.
2:30:51No, he wasn't 40 people.
2:31:38I had breakfast with Glenn.
2:31:41Glenn Hall.
2:31:42He did a great job.
2:31:44I mean, when he comes to town, and he said again how he thought you looked excellent, he just, you know, he's so sweet.
2:31:53What a good job you do.
2:31:57He knows how tough it is.
2:31:59You know, how tough it is is the fact that you have to work with this guy.
2:32:06He also says that
2:32:09He's just doggone glad and proud of the way Conley has conducted himself.
2:32:15Well, good for him.
2:32:16He remembers.
2:32:18He remembers.
2:32:19He said there were people on the street, and that's what means Wall Street there are, who at first said, well, what the hell is he putting him in for?
2:32:29What does he know about this?
2:32:32And he said,
2:32:34He wanted me to tell you this, to a man that he'd never talked to before.
2:32:38They just said, oh, well, you know, they didn't know.
2:32:40He said he showed self-confidence.
2:32:44He said he's not afraid to praise the president.
2:32:46He said, this is another guy.
2:32:49He said, why, he said, and he said, they think it's all part of being the president.
2:32:54He said, you know, he went around the country.
2:32:57He never said anything about how we all survived him.
2:33:00And, of course, Len was a good chairman, too, you know.
2:33:04I know, I know.
2:33:05And he said, you know, he said, you know, and he said, the one that does the most, or the most effective job, and he didn't run any of the other cabs, but the most effective job is done by the officer.
2:33:18And so he just, you know, he thinks everything, you know, looks good, and he's very patient about it.
2:33:27Strong, Connelly, it's on you and the administration, and on the confidence, the self-confidence that he shows.
2:33:37Yeah, yeah, that's good.
2:33:38And when he does his job, it's back.
2:33:41That's great.
2:33:42That's good.
2:33:44Looks good.
2:33:44He's thin.
2:33:45Quite, you know, thin and not quite there.
2:33:49And I promise, two people I was telling you there, and also because of who they are, Tom deeply wrote about it.
2:33:58He's just saying that the Los Angeles Bar Association and the Law of the Eternal City would rather have Douglas than either Hoss Pecker or Melvin Hoss.
2:34:12And she's a deeply advanced.
2:34:14Early on she was an advocate against Walter Taylor.
2:34:18I heard about that.
2:34:18So you think it would be a drastic change for Melvin Hoss?
2:34:24that no matter what anyone tells us, she is a Moran woman and would be a disaster for you, doesn't that make sense?
2:34:34Well, I don't know.
2:34:41Only those two who never called, you see.
2:34:45I mean, Tom Dewey never, right?
2:34:46And he didn't say for himself.
2:34:47He just said, it's those people.
2:34:49And he said...
2:34:51If you wanted to, you know, if you wanted to have Mitchell call, he said Mitchell probably knows all that.
2:34:55If you wanted to call Angelo Francis Barr.
2:34:59Because Tom, very apologetic, but he never writes about that.
2:35:03Good answer.
2:35:09I'm going to put on a face of Diane Pancus, Dr. Nelson's wife.
2:35:14I don't know if you remember when I used to go out and hang out with Tony again.
2:35:20He is so solid, so much behind you, as she is.
2:35:24So she worked in the campaign headquarters here from early 1960s down to where it was here.
2:35:33She works as a marketer now in Tampa.
2:35:36I told Bob, her husband, to quit by the first of the year because she wanted to campaign for working with us.
2:35:46What do you think is I can test her with anything now?
2:35:50So I'm going to put her on a diet.
2:35:52And I just can't get anyone that I don't trust with everything.
2:35:57I've got doctors, cousin, and mom.
2:36:01Mary sent me over to the correspondence section because she could get more money on the day or something.
2:36:08And this other girl found me because the woman is good and I know that my office would be full again and I'd have to get her to go to the office.
2:36:22Because I didn't want to interview anyone.
2:36:25I would bring somebody in from just anywhere to see if they were going to
2:36:41I have this.

Nixon, Woods & Poff on Kennedy Center and John Connally

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