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Start Date: 23-Oct-1971 11:14 AM

End Date: 23-Oct-1971 11:51 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryWhite House operatorNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Bull, Stephen B.Moore, Richard A.Butterfield, Alexander P.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Barnes, Donald F.Alvarez, Luis Echeverria

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:18:43

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:55:52

601a.mp3

601b.mp3

601c.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Richard A. Moore, Alexander P. Butterfield, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Donald F. Barnes, and Luis Echeverria Alvarez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:14 am to 11:51 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 601-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 601-12

Date: October 23, 1971
Time: 11:14 am - 11:51 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 5m 12s ]


[The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 11:14 am and
11:18 am]

[Conversation No. 601-12A]

[See Conversation No. 12-101]

[End of telephone conversation]

[The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon between 11:18 am and 11:19 am]

[Conversation No. 601-12B]

[See Conversation No. 12-102; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     Supreme Court appointments
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 601-12 (cont.)


          -Women appointees
              -Mrs. Nixon’s speech to Republic Women Conference
                   -Lawyers
                        -Comparison to Germany
              -John N. Mitchell

     The President’s schedule
          -Elmer H. Bobst
          -“Dodo” Momdouha (As-Sayyid) Bobst

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:19 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Richard A. Moore
          -Telephone calls

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:22 am.

     Forthcoming social event

     Typewriter used for the President's speeches
         -Radio

Richard A. Moore entered at 11:21 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Telephone call
               -President of Mexico

Woods left at 11:22 am.

     The President's Supreme Court announcements
          -Charles W. Colson
          -Media reaction
                -Dan Rather
          -The President’s decision
          -William French Smith
          -Richard G. Kleindienst
          -Frank M. Johnson
          -William H. Mulligan
          -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 601-12 (cont.)


           -Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
           -Time magazine
           -Newsweek magazine
           -Moore's recollection
                -Method of the President's decision
                      -Herschel H. Friday
                            -John N. Mitchell
                      -Mildred L. Lillie
           -Name selections
                -Lawrence E. Walsh
                      -Leaks
                      -American Bar Association [ABA]
                      -Leaks
                      -Mitchell
                -Wall Street Journal
                      -Unnamed female reporter
                -The President’s statement on television
                      -Reasons
                      -The media
                -Lillie and Friday
                      -ABA
                -Effect on media
                -The President's decision-making process

Alexander P. Butterfield, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Donald F. Barnes entered at 11:30 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Telephone calls

Butterfield left at 11:30 am.

     The President's Supreme Court nominations
          -Moore's discussions
               -Associated Press [AP], United Press International [UPI]
               -Time, Newsweek
          -AP, UPI
          -Moore's conversation with DeVan L. Shumway

The President talked with Luis Echeverria between 11:31 am and 11:43 am.

[Conversation No. 601-12C]
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 601-12 (cont.)



[See Conversation No. 12-103]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Translator's work

Barnes left at 11:43 am.

     United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan expulsion
          -US-Mexican relations
                 -William P. Rogers
          -Italy
                 -Forthcoming election
                       -Compared with Mexico
          -Morocco

Haig left at an unknown time before 11:51 am.

     The President's Supreme Court appointments
          -Ronald L. Ziegler
               -Colson
          -Decision-making process
               -Attorney General
               -People under consideration
          -Media's activities
          -Nominees
               -William H. Rehnquist
               -Edmund S. Muskie, Edward M. Kennedy
          -Possible response of media
               -Need for confidentiality in decision-making
          -Moore's telephone call from Potter Stewart
               -Reaction
          -Supreme Court
               -Case load
                      -Types of cases

     Forthcoming UN vote on Taiwan
          -Ireland
                -Airlines
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 601-12 (cont.)


Moore left at 11:51 am.