Conversation: 601-033
Prev:  601-032 Next: 601-034Start Date: 25-Oct-1971 12:35 PM
End Date: 25-Oct-1971 2:08 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Sanchez, Manolo; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:44:53
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:15:33
NARA Description:
On October 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:35 pm to 2:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 601-033 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 601-33 Date: October 25, 1971 36 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Time: 12:35 pm - 2:08 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with John D. Ehrlichman. [Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of the conversation may be found in RG 460, pp. 1-10] Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:35 pm during the transcribed portion. Bull left at an unknown time before 2:08 pm during the transcribed portion. Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 12:35 pm during the transcribed portion. Butterfield left at an unknown time before 2:08 pm during the transcribed portion. ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [National Security] [Duration: 15s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 ********************************************************************** [End of transcribed portion] Media relations -Backgrounders -The President’s view -Kissinger -Ehrlichman -Ronald L. Ziegler -Kissinger -Purpose -Rogers C. B. Morton -Statement 37 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -Walter J. Hickel -Ehrlichman’s view Department of Interior -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo -Title insurance -Miami Herald -Everglades National Park -Bid solicitations -Allegation of Presidential interference -Miami Herald article -Robert J. Hitt -Morton -Hitt’s and Morton’s efforts [Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of the conversation may be found in RG 460, pp. 1-10] [End of transcribed portion] Taxes Possible proposal -Value Added Tax [VAT] -Income brackets -Federal budget -Education -Property taxes -Wilbur D. Mills -Aid to parochial schools -Election concerns -Aid to parochial schools -Catholics Ehrlichman's domestic agenda -Employment -Crime -Environment -Research and development -Aged -Vietnam veterans -Needs -Economy 38 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -Education -National Education Association [NEA] -Ghetto schools -Aid to parochial schools -Congress -Catholic bishops -John B. Connally -John A. Volpe -Elliot L. Richardson -Mitchell -Connally and Mitchell -Charles W. Colson -Patrick J. Buchanan -Raymond K. Price, Jr. -Leonard Garment -Buchanan -Aid to parochial schools -John P. Sears -Robert J. Dole, Gerald R. Ford -John J. Rhodes -Hoover -Tax -Education -Colson -Louis P. Harris Mills -Textiles -Revenue sharing -Possible political agenda -Effect on policies Special revenue sharing Government reorganization Welfare reform -Ehrlichman's schedule -Russell B. Long -Wallace F. Bennett -Abraham A. Ribicoff 39 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -Long -Proposals -Social Security -Connally -Ribicoff -House Resolution [HR] 1 -Eugene S. Cowen -Administration position -Revenue sharing -Connally -Ehrlichman's staff -Springfield, Illinois Economy -Connally -Schedule -Donald H. Rumsfeld -Paul W. McCracken, Peter G. Peterson, George P. Shultz -Peterson -Paul A. Volcker -Connally, Shultz, McCracken, Kissinger -Connally’s role -Surcharge -Kissinger -William P. Rogers -Connally's schedule -Possible meeting with Ehrlichman -Japanese -Peterson -The President’s view -Maurice H. Stans -Connally -Monetary affairs -Surcharge -Kissinger -The President’s view -Department of Treasury -Federal Reserve -International economic policy -Surcharge -Dollar float 40 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -Shultz -Connally -Staff work -Peterson -Possible role -Connally -Arthur F. Burns -Surcharge -Peterson -National Security Council [NSC] -Domestic Council -Kissinger -Connally -Rogers -Connally -Ehrlichman -Shultz -Peterson’s role -Department of Treasury ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 [Privacy] [Duration: 8s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 ************************************************************************** -Shultz -Connally -Peterson -The President's schedule -Peterson -Connally -Burns -Burns 41 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -Volcker -Shultz -Peterson -Peterson -Connally -Shultz -Connally -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, Kissinger, Ehrlichman Personnel -Possible cuts -Narcotics staff -Peace Corps -Public broadcasting -Congress -John W. Macy, Jr. -Possible management changes -Macy -Washington Post -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD] -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] -Department of Transportation Environment -US lawsuit -Ford Motor Company -Clean air -Environmental Protection Agency [EPA] -Justice Department ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 7m 45s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ********************************************************************** 42 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) Robert C. Byrd -Letter to the President -School busing and integration -Possible conversation with the President Ehrlichman's schedule -School busing -Meeting, October 26, 1971 -Mitchell, Connally, the President, Colson, Ehrlichman -Polls -Democrats Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:35 pm. The President's schedule -Executive Office Building [EOB] Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:08 pm. Economy -Peterson -Shultz -Stans -Commerce Secretary [Forename unknown] Allen Cabinet -Clifford M. Hardin -Successor as Secretary of Agriculture -Bryce N. Harlow -Clarence D. Palmby -Ehrlichman’s view -Henry L. Bellmon -John C. Whitaker -Mitchell -Louis B. Nunn -The President’s view -Harlow’s view 43 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -Ehrlichman’s view -Clint Murchison -Tobacco -Connally -Palmby -Earl L. Butz -Benson -Ehrlichman’s view Post Office -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount -Staff -Sperry-Rand employee -Board of governors -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis -Magazines -Subsidies -Readers Digest -The President's schedule -Ehrlichman's meeting with Lewis -Proposal ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1m 39s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ********************************************************************** Economy -Rumsfeld -Press Secretary of Agriculture possibility -Albert H. Quie 44 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) -William J. Scherle -US House of Representatives -Press coverage -H. R. Gross -The President’s view ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 [Privacy] [Duration: 30s ]: END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 ************************************************************************** -Rhodes -Farmers -Experience -Governors School busing -Congress -Courts -William H. Rehnquist -Hugo L. Black Administration's forthcoming concerns -People's Republic of China [PRC] -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] -War in Vietnam -Busing -Veterans -Welfare mothers -Environment -Revenue sharing 45 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 601-33 (cont.) ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 49s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 ********************************************************************** Ehrlichman's schedule -Taxes -Buchanan Ehrlichman left at 2:08 pm.