Conversation: 607-004
Prev: 607-003 Next: 607-005Start Date: 29-Oct-1971 8:40 AM
End Date: 29-Oct-1971 10:35 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.; Kissinger, Henry A.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:07:17
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:03:50
NARA Description:
On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, Stephen B. Bull, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:40 am to 10:35 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 607-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 607-4
Date: October 29, 1971
Time: 8:40 am - 10:35 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Previous dinner for Josip Broz Tito
-Haldeman's mother
-Previous State Dinners
-Strolling strings
-Dancing
-Trumpets
-Pageantry
-Entertainment
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Gail Robinson
-The President’s view
-Peggy Lee
-Social aides
-Mrs. Broz's conversation with Mrs. Haldeman
-Paul W. Trousdale
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:40 am.
Cigars
-Tito
-Gift from the President
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:58 am.
Tito
-The President’s view
-Travels
-Compared with Haile Selassie
-Communist countries
-Europe
-Spain
-Latin America
-Middle East
-Far East
Yugoslavia
-People
-Croatia
-Serbia
-The President’s view
-Haldeman’s view
-History
Arrival ceremonies
Clifford M. Hardin
-Possible successor
-Clarence D. Palmby
-Donald E. Johnson
-John C. Whitaker
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Background
-Education
-Farm implement business
-Chicken feed business
-Farm accounting
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Johnson
-The President’s view
-Letter after the President's election
-Proposed meeting with the President
-Forthcoming meeting with the President
-Haldeman’s schedule
-Possible press announcement
-Hardin’s forthcoming trip to Turkey
Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-Forthcoming resignation as Postmaster General
-Possible press announcement
-John G. Tower
-Unknown man
-John J. Sparkman's appearance
-The President’s view
-Compared to Tito
Tito
-The President’s view
Previous Senate vote
-The President's previous telephone call to Hugh Scott
-Robert C. Byrd's efforts
-Vietnam negotiations
-Cambodia
Henry A. Kissinger
-Previous conversation with Haldeman
-Haldeman’s view
-William P. Rogers
-Kissinger’s view
-Views on United Nations [UN] vote to expel Taiwan
-Schedule
-Previous trips to People's Republic of China [PRC]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Press coverage
-The President’s view
-The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Kissinger’s proposed trip to PRC
-Rogers
Rogers
-Role on the president's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Comments regarding the President's statement on UN vote
-Kissinger
-Rogers’s appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
-Television
-Previous conversation with Ronald L. Ziegler
-Haldeman’s view
-Treatment by the White House
-Proposed trips to Europe and Latin America
-Haldeman’s view
-Compared to John B. Connally
-Statements by Rogers
-Compared to other Cabinet officers
-Congressional testimony
UN vote to expel Taiwan
-The President's statement
-Connally's views
Connally
-Haldeman’s view
-Views on William L. Calley, Jr.
-Reaction to UN vote
-George H.W. Bush
Bush
-Haldeman’s view
-Compared to Connally
-Comments to the President on UN vote
Rogers
-Comments on the President's statements
-UN vote
-Nguyen Van Thieu
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Kissinger
-The President’s view
-Haldeman’s view
UN vote to expel Taiwan
-Kissinger's reaction
-The President’s view
-Conservatives' reaction
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Jews
-Haldeman’s view
John W. Rollins
-Previous conversation with Haldeman and John N. Mitchell
-Supreme Court nominees
-Support for fourth party
-Possible candidates
-Shirley Chisholm
-Jessie L. Jackson
-Financial support
-Chisholm
-Julian Bond
-Jackson
-Possible pay off for candidate
UN vote to expel Taiwan
-Press coverage
-Follow-up votes
-Conservatives' reaction
-The President's telephone call to Reagan
-Rogers
Conservatives
-White House treatment
-Supreme Court nominees
-Taiwan
-Forthcoming US-PRC talks
Neo-isolationism
-The President’s view
-UN
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Elmer H. Bobst
-Delegates' reaction to vote on Taiwan
-Reaction of average voters
Louis L. Banks
-Fortune magazine
-Editorial director of Time
-Hedley W. Donovan
-Henry A. Grunwald
-Haldeman’s view
-PRC
-Economy
-Donovan
-Selecting for "Man of the Year"
-Banks and Donovan
-Donald McI. Kendall's role
-Kissinger
-Rogers
News magazines
-Supreme Court nominees
-Richard A. Moore
-Presidential appointments
"Man of the Year"
-Possible selection of the President
-Kissinger
-Timing
-President’s forthcoming trips to PRC and Soviet Union
-1972 election
-Alternatives
-Foreign individuals
-George E. Allen
-Willy Brandt's efforts in 1970
-Time editorial board
-Norway
Rogers
-Forthcoming Congressional testimony
-Frank F. Church
-Efforts
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Views on the President and Kissinger
-Kissinger
-The President’s view
-UN
-PRC
-White House treatment
-White House comments on the State Department
-State Department's comments on the President's policy
-Kissinger's actions
-Haldeman’s view
-Views on PRC
-The President’s view
-Role in US foreign policy
-Haldeman’s view
-PRC
-Vietnam
-PRC
-Berlin
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Soviet Union
-Relations with State Department
-Compared with Kissinger
-The President’s view
-Haldeman’s view
The Administration’s foreign policy advisors
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Rogers
-The President’s view
-Kissinger
-Haldeman’s view
-Kissinger
-Haldeman’s view
-The President’s view
-UN
-Thieu
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
Connally
-Advice to the President
-Calley
-Haldeman’s view
-Staff selection
-Advice to the President
-UN
-Bush
-Staff needs
-Advice to the President
-Calley
-Popular reaction
-Cambodia
-Haldeman’s view
-Street demonstrations
-State legislatures
UN vote to expel Taiwan
-Ziegler's handling
-The President's statement
-Rogers
-PRC
-UN
-Connally's advice
-Bush
-Ziegler's statement
Ziegler
-Performance
-Compared to Kissinger
-Compared to Herbert G. Klein
-James E. Bassett
-Background
-Haldeman’s view
Public relations
-The President
-Press coverage
-Reaction
-John F. Kennedy
-Lyndon B. Johnson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
Kissinger
-Rogers
-Possible conversation with Mitchell
Previous State dinner for Tito
-Spiro T. Agnew's schedule
US Ambassador to Spain
-Cornelius V. (“Sonny”) Whitney
-Louie B. Nunn
Mitchell
-The President’s view
-Wife
Previous State dinner for Tito
-Mrs. John E. Swearingen
-Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Coors
-Haldeman’s view
-Vocational Guidance Committee
-Golden, Colorado
Secretary of Agriculture
-Committee
-Donald E. Johnson
-Haldeman's possible conversation with Bryce N. Harlow
-The President’s view
Veterans Administration [VA] head
-Possible retired military officer
-Marines
-Navy
-Army
-Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.
Agnew
-Forthcoming foundation speech
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Possible controversy
-Edith Efron's book [The News Twisters]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
Efron's book
-Roscoe Drummond
-Sales
-Charles W. Colson
-Drummond's comments
-Federal Communications Commission [FCC]
-Congress
The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Ziegler
-Selection of media representatives
-Rogers's role
-Kissinger's role
-Haldeman’s view
-Rogers's role
-The President’s view
Kissinger
-Health
-Schedule
-Proposed meeting with Rogers
Rogers
-Proposed trip to the Soviet Union
-Advance for forthcoming US-Soviet Summit
-Role of the Secretary of State
-Advance staff
-Dwight L. Chapin
-Kissinger
-Advance for President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-European Security
-Normal diplomatic relations
-PRC
Previous State dinner for Tito
-Activities
-Dancing
-Reception line
-President’s previous conversation with Rose Mary Woods
-Attendees
-White House staff
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Helmut Sonnenfeldt
-Kissinger
-Haig
-The President’s instructions
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Martha (Beall) Mitchell
-The President’s view
-Haldeman’s view
-John N. Mitchell
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Wives of Administration officials
-Carol (Crothers) Finch
-Haldeman’s view
-Brigid Peterson
-Haldeman’s view
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-The President’s view
-Sally Flanigan
-Peter G. Peterson
-The President’s view
-Haldeman’s view
-Wives of public officials
-Haldeman’s view
Secretary of Agriculture
-Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Harlow
The President's schedule
-Arthur F. Burns
-Timing
-James D. (“Don”) Hughes
-Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
-Timing
Scowcroft
-Air Force
-Haldeman’s view
-Compared to Hughes
-Requirements for position
The President's schedule
-Boy Scouts
-Silver Buffalo award
-The President’s view
-Forthcoming meeting with Tito
-Arrival ceremony
-Honor guard
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:40 am.
Dog
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:58 am.
The President's schedule
-Hotel
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 8:40 am.
Kissinger's location
-State Department
Congress
Bull left at an unknown time after 9:58 am.
Kissinger's schedule
Conservatives
-Comments on the President's policies
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Press conferences
-Harry S. Dent
-The President's policies
-The South
-Supreme Court nominees
-Textiles
-Busing
Burns
-Actions
The President's schedule
-Previous meeting with Connally
William H. Sullivan
Rogers
-Loyalties
-State Department
-Sullivan
-The President’s view
Kissinger entered at 9:58 am.
George P. Shultz
-Possible memorandum
-The President's forthcoming meeting with Burns
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
Haldeman left at 9:58 am.
Kissinger
-Jet lag
-Hughes
-Schedule
-New York
Tito
-Visit to US
-Previous visit in John F. Kennedy Administration
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Photographs
-Comment on UN vote to expel Taiwan
Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters
-Forthcoming meeting with PRC officials
-UN
UN
-PRC’s role
-Taiwan
-Possible expulsions
-Israel
-Portugal
-South Africa
-US policy
Bush
-Activities
-The President’s view
-Colson
UN
-Delegates' reaction to Taiwan vote
-Vote on Taiwan
-Timing
-Kissinger's previous conversation with Shirley Temple Black
-New York Times previous editorial
-US policy
-PRC
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Soviet Union
-Thieu
-Europeans
-Netherlands
-Brandt
Bull entered at 10:04 am.
The President's schedule
-Telephone call from Rogers
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:36 am.
UN vote to expel Taiwan
-New York Times previous editorial
-Great Britain
-W. Averell Harriman's previous comments on "Today" show
-US reaction
-Dunkirk
-Connally's views
-Bush
-Harriman
-New York Times
-Kissinger’s view
The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Selection of news media
-Wire services
-Television
-New York Times
Kissinger's schedule
-Rogers
-Forthcoming conversation
-Communiqué
-The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
Tito
-Comments on USSR
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
Europe
-Relations with US
-UN vote on Taiwan
-New York Times editorial
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Norway
-Denmark
-Iceland
-Scandinavian countries
-Great Britain
-France
-Belgium
-Italy
-Austria
UN vote on Taiwan
-Recording of delegates reaction
-US reaction
-Colson
-William L. Calley, Jr. court martial
Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Rogers
-US reaction to UN vote to expel Taiwan
-US foreign policy
-Rogers's views
-Berlin
-PRC
-The President's view
-The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Rogers's role
-Communiqué
-Kissinger’s view
-President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-State Department
-Kissinger’s previous trip to PRC
-The President’s instructions
-The President’s view
-Soviet Union
-India
-Japan
-Taiwan
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Haig's possible visit
US support of the UN
-Tito
-Haldeman
-United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization [UNESCO]
-Multi-national aid
-Paul G. Hoffman committee [United Nations Development Program]
-Kissinger’s view
-Views of Connally and Rogers
-The President’s instructions
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Multilateral aid compared to bilateral aid
-Congress
Previous Senate vote
-John Sherman Cooper-Church amendment
-Scott
-Comments
-UN vote on Taiwan
-Cooper-Church vote
Vietnam
-Negotiations
-Le Duc Tho
-Possible Congressional action
-Article by Foreign Minister of North Vietnam
-Future
-Thieu
-South Vietnamese military capability
-Kissinger’s view
-Military situation
-US Prisoners of war [POWs]
-South Vietnamese situation
-North Vietnamese situation
-Infiltration by North Vietnamese
-Flooding
-Typhoon
Press relations
-UN vote to expel Taiwan
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-New York Times
-News magazines
-The President's forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Press coverage
-John F. Kennedy's test ban
Polls
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UN vote to expel Taiwan
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Hubert H. Humphrey's comments
-Chiang Kai-Shek
The President's proposed meetings
-Europeans
-Forthcoming European Summit
-Georges J.R. Pompidou
-Brandt
-Kissinger’s view
-Pompidou
-Brandt
-Edward R.G. Heath
US-British relations
-Common Market
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Earl of Cromer
-US-PRC relations
-British-PRC relations
-State Department
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-UN
-Kissinger’s previous trip to PRC
-The President’s view
-British relations with Europe
-Kissinger’s view
Connally's forthcoming trip
-Forthcoming memorandum from Kissinger
-The President's forthcoming letters to Chiefs of State
-Eisaku Sato
-Ferdinand E. Marcos
-The President’s instructions
-NSC
-Meetings with f leaders
-US Ambassadors
-Leonard Unger
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Kissinger's message to Sato's assistant
-Lt. Gen. T.N.J. Suharto
-Kissinger's preparation of talking paper
-Connally's previous television appearance
-Kissinger’s view
The forthcoming year
-1972 election
US foreign policy
-PRC
-Vietnam
-Middle East
-Soviet Union
-Middle East
-Kissinger’s view
-Israel
-Soviet Union
-Yitzhak Rabin
-International monetary situation
-Roles of Kissinger, Shultz, Peterson
-Peterson memorandum
-Burns's views
-Connally's views
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 607-4 (cont.)
-Popular views
-Trade
-Europeans
-Kissinger’s view
-Kissinger’s forthcoming conversation with Shultz
-Connally
Blount
Kissinger left at 10:35 am.