Conversation No. 609-13

Date: October 30, 1971
Time: 12:09 pm - 12:37 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

     Campaign practices
         -Edward M. Kennedy
              -London Express cartoon
                    -Distribution

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 12:10 pm.

     Busing
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     -Poll
           -John D. Ehrlichman
     -Possible Amendment
           -Poll
           -Blacks
     -Supporters
           -Edward Kennedy
           -Edmund S. Muskie
     -Poll
           -Possible amendment
                 -1954 desegregation decision [Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education]
     -Possible amendment
           -Ehrlichman
           -Leonard Garment
           -The President’s view
     -Poll
           -George C. Wallace supporters
           -The President's supporters
           -Muskie supporters
           -Nation-wide
     -Letter from pro-busing group
           -Muskie
           -Polish-Americans
           -Boston

Edward M. Kennedy
    -London Express cartoon
         -Distribution
         -Muskie

Foreign aid program
     -Previous Senate vote
           -Henry A. Kissinger's view
           -The President’s view
     -Timing
     -White House response
     -Edward Kennedy’s statements
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                                                                 Conv. No. 609-13 (cont.)


United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan, Republic of China
     -Colson's conversation with George H.W. Bush
     -Bush's statement on the William F. Buckley, Jr. or “Dick Cavett” show television
           show
           -Possible UN expulsion of Israel
     -Elliot L. Richardson's forthcoming speech to the American Jewish Congress
           -President’s support for Israel
                 -Compared with Taiwan
           -Colson's conversation with Richardson
           -Statements about Edward Kennedy
           -Press conference

Foreign aid program
     -The President's conversation with Kissinger
           -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
     -The President's possible veto
           -The President’s view
           -Israel
           -Cambodia

UN vote on Taiwan
    -Bush’s statements
          -Appearances on Cavett and Buckley television shows
               -UN Secretary General U Thant's reaction
          -Forthcoming attack on Edward Kennedy
               -Kennedy’s previous statements on foreign policy
                     -Vietnam
                     -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                     -Kissinger’s trip to Peking
    -Richard F. Pederson
    -Bush's forthcoming treatment of the People's Republic of China [PRC] delegation
          -The President’ view
               -Compared with treatment of Soviet Union
               -Kissinger

Edward Kennedy
    -Effectiveness on television
         -Ronald L. Ziegler's views
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                                                                    Conv. No. 609-13 (cont.)


The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:10 pm and 12:25
pm and requested Ziegler.

[Conversation No. 609-13A]

     Edward Kennedy
         -Compared to Robert F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy

     The President's foreign policy
          -Press coverage
               -Kissinger’s view
                      -Soviet trip announcement
               -The President’s view

     Edward Kennedy
         -Robert J. Dole
         -Colson's conversation with Franklyn C. (“Lyn”) Nofziger
              -Possible attack

Ziegler present at 12:25 pm.

           -Statement regarding UN vote on Taiwan
                 -Press coverage
                      -New York Times
                      -Washington Post
           -Physical appearance
                 -Ziegler’s view
           -Contrasted with brothers
           -Possible White House attacks
           -London Express cartoon
           -Mike Royko column
           -Peter Lisagor's possible column

     Foreign aid
          -Ziegler’s recent briefing
          -Kissinger
          -Israel
          -Vietnamization
          -Cambodia
          -Pakistan
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                                                                Conv. No. 609-13 (cont.)


Ziegler left at 12:30 pm

     Press
             -Kissinger
             -Relations with the Administration
             -UN
             -Busing
                  -New York Times
                  -Ehrlichman, Leonard Garment
                  -Editorials

     Foreign aid program
          -Hugh Scott
          -Previous Senate vote
                -Administration's efforts
                     -State Department
                -Nofziger
                -Dole

     UN vote on Taiwan
         -Right-wing
         -Buckley

The President, Haldeman, and Colson left at 12:37 pm.