Conversation: 611-003
Prev: 611-002 Next: 611-004Start Date: 2-Nov-1971 9:32 AM
End Date: 2-Nov-1971 10:45 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:04:10
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:16:24
NARA Description:
On November 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:32 am to 10:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 611-003 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 611-3
Date: November 2, 1971
Time: 9:32 am - 10:45 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with William P. Rogers.
Rogers’s schedule
-Australia
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting
-Ronald L. Ziegler briefing
Foreign aid program
-The President's schedule
-Gerald R. Ford and Leslie C. Arends
-George H. Mahon
-Senate vote, October 29, 1971
-Previous votes
-Henry A. Kissinger's call to the President
-Hugh Scott
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Robert P. Griffin
-Senate Republicans
-Hubert H. Humphrey, Edmund S. Muskie and Edward M. Kennedy
-Mansfield
-Timing
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 9:36 am.
-Comments by Gordon L. Allott and Clifford P. Hansen
-John Sherman Cooper-Frank F. Church Amendment
-Mansfield
-Humanitarian aspect of bill
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-John C. Stennis
-Hansen
-Warren G. Magnuson's previous conversation with Kissinger
-Separability
-House's view
-Senate
-Possible continuing resolution for ninety days
-Mahon's view
-Defense Appropriations Bill
-Possible House action
-Security assistance
-Foreign Operations Bill
-Possible House action
-Possible continuing resolution
-House Foreign Affairs Committee
-Views of Ford, Carl B. Albert and Mahon
-J. William Fulbright
-Appropriations bills
-Mahon's strategy
-Senate strategy
-Temporary continuing resolution
-Senate parliamentarian
-Fulbright's possible reaction
-Prospects
-Military bill
-Conservatives
-Foreign operations
-Liberals
-Possible Foreign Relations Committee testimony
-Fulbright
-Rogers, Melvin R. Laird and John A. Hannah
-Mansfield and Cooper-Church Amendments
-Foreign aid authorization
-House vote
-Prospects for 1971
-Senate
-White House strategy
-House plans
-Arends and Ford
-Public opinion
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-Senate responsibility
-Israel and Pakistan
-Refugees
-Impact on national defense
-The President's conversation with Laird, November 1, 1971
-Korea
-Vietnamization
-Thailand
-Humanitarianism
-Nixon Doctrine
-Laos
-Treaty commitments
-Thailand
-Korea
-Greece and Turkey
-Jordan
-Israel
-Israel
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Impact on national defense
-Korea
-Thailand
-Laos
-Cambodia
-The Nixon Doctrine contrasted with Lyndon B. Johnson's and John F.
Kennedy's policies
-Compared to Vietnam
-Rogers's conversation with Scott, November 1, 1971
-Possible Foreign Relations Committee testimony
-Rogers
-Timing
-Postponement
-[Forename unknown] Donnelly (sp?)
-India-Pakistan relations
-John A. Scali's views
-Vietnam troop withdrawals
-US foreign policy
-Trips to USSR and PRC
-US position of world leadership
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawals
-Laird's trip
-Paris negotiations
-Haig
-Le Duc Tho
-Kissinger's forthcoming trip
-US offers
-Le Duc Tho
-North Vietnamese message
-Le Duc Tho and Xuan Thuy
-Kissinger's forthcoming rip
-Xuan Thuy
-Health
-Public knowledge
-Possible continuing resolution for foreign aid
-Troop withdrawal
-Laird
-Ziegler's forthcoming announcement
-Vietnamization
-Rate of troop withdrawal
-Timing
-Residual force
-Paris negotiations
-Kissinger's forthcoming trip
-Importance
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-The President's possible announcement, January 1972
-State of the Union address
-Phrasing
-Mansfield Amendment
-State of the Union address
-Congress
-Continuing resolution
-Foreign aid
-Troop withdrawal
-Draftees
-Haig
-Army
-Residual force
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-Air Force and Navy
-Timing of the President's possible announcement
-Kissinger and Haig
-Scott
-Rate
-Le Duc Tho
-Appearance in Paris
-Foreign aid program
-Cambodia and South Vietnam
-The President's conversation with Haldeman
-Timing of the President's possible announcement
-1972 election
Foreign aid program
-Possible continuing resolution
-Paris negotiations
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Election
-Previous votes
-Mansfield Amendment
-Senate
-Responsibility
-Separability
India-Pakistan
-Indira Gandhi
-Forthcoming visit
-Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan
-Troop withdrawal
-Gandhi
Arthur F. Burns
-Statements
-Surtax
-Investment
-Canada
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawal
-Draftees
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-Studies
-Laird
-Handling of announcement
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Laird
-POWs
-Possible US actions
-Air attacks
-Possible North Vietnamese actions
-Views of PRC and USSR
-Forthcoming summits
-Article by North Vietnamese Foreign Minister
-Military assistance
-Announcement
-Withdrawals
-Casualties
-Public interest
-Senate
-Foreign aid bill
-The President's trip to Oregon
-Kissinger's visit to Chicago
-USSR, PRC and Japan
The President's schedule
-Latin America trip
-Foreign aid program
-Continuing resolution
-Timing
-Location
-Brazil
-Mexico
-San Juan, Puerto Rico
-Duration
Import surcharge
-US negotiations with Canada
-Shultz
-Connally's trip
-Latin America
-Oil sales
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-Possible contract
-Shultz
-Import quota
-Paul A. Volcker's Group
-Mitchell W. Sharpe
-Canadian currency
-Floatation
-Automobiles
-Pierre E. Trudeau
-Popularity
-Forthcoming election
The President's schedule
-William McMahon
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Rogers's statement at press conference
-Ziegler
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:36 am.
Request that Ziegler be asked to join them
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:22 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
Foreign aid program
-Hannah and Laird
-Foreign Relations Committee
-Senate vote
-Scott
-White House response
-Fulbright
-F. Edward Hebert
-Hebert
Ziegler entered at 10:22 am.
-Rogers's schedule
-Robert H. Finch
-Press conference and Foreign Relations Committee testimony
-Ziegler's previous conversation with Robert J. McCloskey
-Scali
-Rogers's meeting with the President
-Press
-Questions
-Congress
-Dwight D. Eisenhower's administration
-Congress
-Senate vote
-Forthcoming House Appropriation Bills
-Defense
-Foreign operations
-Senate vote
-Effect on White House
-Foreign policy initiatives
-Possible White House response
-Compromise
-Frank F. Church
-Effect
-Vietnam
-Troops
-Paris negotiations
-Continuing resolution
-Duration
-Balanced bill
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-Reform
-Laird’s and Ziegler’s statements
-Rogers's statement
-Administration's responsibility
-Meetings with Congressmen
-Kissinger
The President's schedule
-Latin America trip
-State of the Union address and budget presentation
Rogers and Ziegler left at 10:33 am.
-Forthcoming meeting with McMahon
-Kissinger's presence
Australia
-Paris negotiations
-Troop withdrawal
-[Edward Gough Whitlam?]
-Labor party
-Trip to PRC
-Ambassador to US
-Direct channel
-Foreign office
-The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Politics
-Conservatives
-Congress
-PRC
-Whitlam
-Geneva Conference
United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan, Republic of China
-Chou En-lai's conversation with Kissinger
-PRC statements
-US and USSR
-Central Committee of Communist Party
-Letter to Albanians
-Channels
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-Kissinger's views
-1971 compared to 1972
-Statements
-Chou En-lai’s conversation with Kissinger
-Two-China policy
-Consequences
-USSR
-Japan
-Taiwan
-US
-Chou En-lai
-PRC hardliners
-US liberals
The President's previous meeting with Rogers and Kissinger
-Europe
-Vietnam
-Latin America trip
The President's schedule
-Big Four meeting
-Compared to separate meetings
-[Emilio Colombo]
-Willy Brandt
-Georges J.R. Pompidou
-Location
-French Guyana
-Brazil
-Caribbean Islands
-Paris
-Brandt
-California
-Edward R.G. Heath
-Bermuda
-Pompidou
-Brandt
-Heath
-Brandt
-San Clemente
-Key Biscayne
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 611-3 (cont.)
-State Department's views
-Haldeman
-Pompidou
-Heath
Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with the Georges R.S. Baring, Earl of Cromer
-Heath
-US negotiations with USSR
-Laird
-UN vote on Taiwan
-South Africa and Rhodesia
-The President’s commitment
UN vote on Taiwan
-PRC reaction
-USSR and US
Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:33 am.
Request that Charles W. Colson be asked to join them
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:45 am.
UN vote on Taiwan
-PRC’s reaction
-Leadership
-USSR
Kissinger left at 10:45 am.