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Start Date: 4-Nov-1971 10:29 AM

End Date: 4-Nov-1971 12:35 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ghandi, IndiraZiegler, Ronald L.Haksar, Parmeshwar N.Sanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:27:47

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 06:34:02

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NARA Description:

On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Indira Ghandi, Ronald L. Ziegler, Parmeshwar N. Haksar, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:29 am to 12:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 613-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 613-15

Date: November 4, 1971
Time: 10:29 am - 12:35 pm
Location: Oval Office


The President met with Indira Gandhi.

     Seating

     Agenda
         -Pakistan
         -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
         -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]

Ronald L. Ziegler and members of the press entered at an unknown time after 10:29 am.

     [Photograph session]

     Unknown men's homes

     Gifts
             -Pens
                     -Congressmen

Ziegler and the press left at an unknown time before 10:36 am.

     Gandhi's schedule
         -New York
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)




     Refreshments

     Agenda for meetings
         -Indian Ambassador
               -State Department
         -The President's forthcoming trips to the PRC and the USSR
         -Henry A. Kissinger
         -Arms control
         -Middle East
               -Importance
         -South Asia

Parmeshwar N. Haksar and Kissinger entered at 10:36 am.

     Seating

     The President's previous meeting with Josip Broz Tito
          -Translator

     Agenda for meetings
         -The President's forthcoming trips to the PRC and USSR
               -Kissinger
         -Vietnam
               -The President's conversation with Gandhi in 1969
         -Pakistan
         -Records
               -Leaks

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:36 am.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:35 pm.

     The President's forthcoming trip to the PRC
          -Indian relations with the PRC
          -Reaction of US conservatives
          -The President's handling
          -Gandhi's reaction
          -The President's conversation with Gandhi in 1969
                                           46

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 613-15 (cont.)


        -Importance
        -USSR and Asians
        -Chinese
        -State Department
        -Views of Llewellyn E. (“Tommy”) Thompson and Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen
              -USSR
              -India
              -Japan
        -Importance
              -The President’s view
        -Gandhi's reaction
              -William P. Rogers

India
        -Importance in world
             -The President's conversation with Gandhi
             -Unknown book
             -US public perception
             -Chester Bowles's conversation with the President
             -PRC
                  -Totalitarianism
                        -Compared to freedom

Foreign aid program
     -Senate vote
     -Refugees
           -Appropriations
     -Views of Senate and House
     -The President's meeting with Leslie C. Arends and others
     -Possible continuing resolution
     -Senate vote
     -Gandhi's possible statement at Press Club, November 5, 1971
           -Refugees
                                               47

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 613-15 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 1hr 40m 30s ]


     INDIA-PAKISTAN

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:36 am.

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:35 pm



END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO.

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     Forthcoming statement to press
          -Agenda of meeting

[General conversation]

The President, Gandhi, Haksar and Kissinger left at 12:35 pm.