Conversation: 615-004
Prev:  615-003 Next: 615-005Start Date: 5-Nov-1971 7:50 AM
End Date: 5-Nov-1971 9:10 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:15:38
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:33:49
NARA Description:
On November 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 7:50 am to 9:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 615-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 615-4 Date: November 5, 1971 Time: 7:50 am - 9:10 am Location: Oval Office The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman. Charles W. Colson -Schedule The President's schedule -Meeting with Colson and Henry A. Kissinger -Forthcoming trip to Florida -Departure time White House statements -Instruction for Ronald L. Ziegler -Foreign aid -Senate action -The President’s policy -National security 3 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule -Trip to Ghana -William P. Rogers -Press -Announcement -Timing -Ghana Ambassador -Kissinger The President's schedule -Trip to Latin America -Rogers -Brazil -Brasilia -Argentina -Panama -Darien Gay Highway dedication -Nixon Highway -Haldeman's staff -Willy Brandt -Forthcoming visit -Announcement -Announcement -Location -Florida -Chicago -Cincinnati -Hotels -Motorcade -Miami -Hotels -Chicago -Cincinnati -Possible reception -State Street -Luis Echeverria Alvarez -Forthcoming trip -Houston, Miami -Motorcade -Mexican-Americans -San Antonio 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Alamo -Timing -The President's trips to People's Republic of China [PRC] and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] -1972 election -Announcement -John B. Connally ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 21s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ***************************************************************** Mrs. Nixon's schedule -White House teas -Event, November 5, 1971 -Constance M. (“Commie”) Stuart ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 12s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ***************************************************************** 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Ghana trip -Peru -Staff -Agenda -Lucy A. Winchester -Purpose -Peru trip Rogers's conversation with Mrs. Nixon and Kissinger -The President's arrival statement and toast for Indira Gandhi The President's arrival statement for Gandhi -Ziegler -Television coverage -Toast -John A. Scali -Richard A. Moore -Kissinger -The President's dinner for Gandhi, November 4, 1971 -Kenneth B. Keating -Ziegler Forthcoming trip to Ghana -Announcement -Timing Foreign aid program -Michael J. Mansfield amendment -Provisions -Vietnam -Troop withdrawal deadline -Economic and military aid -Vote -Timing -Roman C. Pucinski amendment Pay Board 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1m 47s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 ***************************************************************** Henry J. Taylor -Rogers -Alleged comments -Concern about Andrei A. Gromyko -USSR -Veracity Taylor -Attendance at White House dinner Polls -A. C. Nielsen, Jr. -Market research ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 14s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8 ***************************************************************** 7 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) Philip Roth -Press coverage -Newsweek -Saturday Review -New Republic Unknown story -Cambodians Robert D. Novak -Animosity towards Haldeman The President's Supreme Court nominees -Confirmation hearings -William H. Rehnquist -Lewis F. Powell, Jr. -Rehnquist ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 4m 22s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10 ***************************************************************** The President's schedule -Possible dinners for foreign leaders -Announcements -US Marine Corps Band -Locations -Receptions -Attendees -Administration -Congressmen -State Department 8 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -White House staff -Locations -California -Comparison with astronauts dinner -Marine band -Gridiron dinner -Entertainment -Park dinner -San Francisco -Hand-shaking -Astronaut dinner ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 4s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12 ***************************************************************** -Service -Food -White House menu cards -Entertainment -Types -Chorus Ballet 9 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 34s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13 ***************************************************************** White House dinners -Entertainment -Leonard Garment's role -Philip Glass -Josip Broz Tito -Pete Fountain -Mrs. Nixon -Reaction -Mrs. Nixon -Penelope M. (“Penny”) Adams -Mrs. Nixon -Winchester -Barbara Hickey -Winchester's role -Alexander P. Butterfield -Entertainment -Edward K. (“Duke”) Ellington -Pearl M. Bailey -Brandt 10 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 15 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 24s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 15 ***************************************************************** -The President's involvement -Programs -Possible location -Chicago -Military program -Brandt -Germans Unknown man -Music ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16 [National Security] [Duration: 11s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16 ***************************************************************** 11 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) Ceremony -Weather Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 7:50 am. Request that Colson and Kissinger join them Bull left at an unknown time before 8:32 am. Dinner for the President in India -Trumpets The President's previous visit to Spain -Motorcade -Horses -Palace ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 17 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 56s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 17 ***************************************************************** County Executive -Role of County Executive -Board of Supervisors -[Edward V. Regan?] Visits of foreign guests -John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and the President -Handling Kissinger and Colson entered at 8:32 am. 12 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 18 [National Security] [Duration: 16s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 18 ***************************************************************** White House dinner -Entertainment -Ballet dancers White House staff Homosexuals -Votes -Numbers The President's meeting with Republican congressmen, November 4, 1971 -John H. Kyl -Possible future position with administration -Secretary of Agriculture -Price of corn -Possible congressional action -Previous grain sales to USSR -Kennedy, Johnson -Labor unions US-Soviet relations -Pending grain deal with USSR -Colson -Unions -Maritime 13 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Longshoremen -Forthcoming announcement -Department of Agriculture -Department of Commerce -White House -Recent relations with the USSR -Kissinger’s call to Anatoliy F. Dobrynin, November 4, 1971 -Forthcoming announcement -Cornbelt -Senate -Secretary of Agriculture -J. Philip Campbell -Clarence D. Palmby -Possible Soviet reaction -Unions' cooperation -John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson -Ziegler -Maurice H. Stans -Campbell -Department of Agriculture -Public affairs -Size of deal -The President's role -Labor unions -Ziegler -Maritime Administrator -Kissinger's conversation with Dobrynin -Jesse M. Calhoon and Paul Hall -Carl T. Curtis, Jack R. Miller and Robert J. Dole -Kyl -John C. Whitaker -Soviet interest -Kissinger's conversation with Dobrynin -Unions The Administration -Tendency to tell the truth National economy -Pay Board -Labor's proposal 14 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -George P. Shultz's view -Action in House of Representatives -Possible continuation of freeze -Teachers -Retroactivity -Steel -George Meany -Colson's conversation with Shultz, November 4, 1971 -Pay Board -Labor's proposal -Cost of living -Productivity -Stock market -The President's conversations -Gustave L. Levy -Head of New York Stock Exchange Colson left at 8:46 am. The President’s dinner for Gandhi, November 4, 1971 ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 22 [National Security] [Duration: 3s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 22 ***************************************************************** -Julie Nixon Eisenhower -The President's toast -Gandhi's toast -Mrs. Nixon 15 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Pakistan -Previous election in India The President left at an unknown time before 8:50 am. -Pakistan The President's handling of meetings with Gandhi Toasts at State Dinners -Chief of protocol ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 27 [National Security] [Duration: 4s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 27 ************************************************************************** Length -Josip Broz Tito -Mexican President [Luis Echeverria Alvarez] The President's schedule -Brandt -Georges J.R. Pompidou -Brandt -Chicago The President entered at an unknown time after 8:46 am. The President's forthcoming meeting with Gandhi 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Unilateral withdrawal The President talked with Colson between 8:50 am and 8:52 am. [Conversation No. 615-4A] [See Conversation No. 13-147] [End of telephone conversation] The President's dinner for Gandhi -The President's conversation with Manolo Sanchez -Women -Politics India-Pakistan relations ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 24 [National Security] [Duration: 15s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 24 ***************************************************************** The President's forthcoming conversation with Gandhi -North Vietnam ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 28 [National Security] [Duration: 3s ] 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) INDIA-PAKISTAN END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 28 ************************************************************************** Gandhi's visit to US -The President's handling -Gandhi's expectations ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 29 [National Security] [Duration: 6m ] INDIA-PAKISTAN END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 29 ************************************************************************** Instructions for Kissinger -Forthcoming meeting with the press -Democrats -The President’s toast Kissinger left at 9:00 am. Kissinger -Contacts with press -Rowland Evans -The President's conversation with Ziegler 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Evans and Novak Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:00 am. The President's schedule -Shultz Bull left at an unknown time before 9:10 am. Rogers’s schedule -Cabinet meeting -Meeting with Gandhi -John N. Irwin, II Evans’s and Novak's book, Nixon in the White House -The President's foreign policy Philip Roth's book, Our Gang -Possible White House reaction -Column -Moore -William L. Safire's conversation with Haldeman -John A. Scali's reaction -Assassination -Possible White House reaction -Kennedy assassination -Date -Edward M. Kennedy -Speech -Kennedy assassination The President's schedule -Brandt visit -Timing -Kissinger -Motorcades -Chicago -Weather -PRC trip Polls 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Press -James B. Reston -Attacks -Background -The President's foreign policy -United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan, Republic of China The President's schedule -Florida trip -Space -Hotel -Plane -Whitaker and Garment ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 25 [Privacy] [Duration: 29s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 25 ***************************************************************** -Arrangements -Delaware -Beaver Island -Lodge -Florida trip -Timing -Rogers -Rogers -Gandhi Latin America -Trip -Rogers -Argentina -Brazil -Panama 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 615-4 (cont.) -Highway Use of the President's name -Compared to Johnson's -Johnson Forest -Image -Panama highway Haldeman left at 9:10 am.