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Start Date: 5-Nov-1971 11:21 AM

End Date: 5-Nov-1971 12:20 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ghandi, Indira

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:12:00

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:13:28

615a.mp3

615b.mp3

615c.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Indira Ghandi met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:21 am to 12:20 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 615-023 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 615-23

Date: November 5, 1971
Time: 11:21 am - 12:20 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Indira Gandhi.

     White House dinners
          -Guest list

Parmeshwar N. Haksar and Henry A. Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 11:21 am.

     Refreshments

     Agriculture
          -The President's visit to India in 1967
                -Drought
                     -The President’s conversation with Indian Minister of Agriculture
                           -Self-sufficiency
                                  -Wheat and rice
                     -1971
          -US research in desalination
                -Prototypes
                     -California
                     -Texas

     The President's forthcoming trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -Kissinger's meetings with Chou en-Lai
               -Ideological differences
                      -Handling
          -Anticipated results
               -Communiqué
               -Dialogue
          -Possible agenda
               -Bilateral issues
               -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]-PRC relations
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 3m 20s ]


    PRC


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    PRC’s foreign policy
        -Kissinger’s reports
        -USSR
        -Japan
        -India
        -Japan
              -John B. Connally's visit

    The President's forthcoming visit to PRC


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 11s ]


    CHINA


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)



     -US allies' fears
          -Taiwan
          -Japan
          -Europe
                 -USSR
     -US principles
          -The President’s welcoming remarks
                 -Freedoms
                       -Speech, press
                       -Totalitarianism
          -PRC
                 -Political system
          -US association with allies
     -Views of US conservatives
          -Political orientation
          -The US left
     -Pragmatism
          -USSR trip

India's foreign policy
      -Non-alignment
      -Jawaharlal Nehru

US-PRC relations
    -The president's views on communism and history
    -Importance
         -The future
         -Moderating effects

India's foreign policy
      -Domestic criticism
            -Recent election
                 -Communists

India’s domestic policy
      -Gandhi’s knowledge

The President’s trips to India
     -Communists
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                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)


Vietnam
     -US military activity
           -Casualties
           -Troops
     -Prisoners of war [POWs]
           -Number
           -Negotiations with North Vietnam
                 -North Vietnamese demands
                       -US withdrawal
                       -US aid cut off
                       -Removal of South Vietnam government
     -US military activity in Cambodia and Laos
           -The President’s conversation with Gandhi in 1969
     -US negotiations with North Vietnam
           -Status
           -US offer
                 -Economic aid
           -Timing
           -Possible failure
                 -Consequences
                       -Possible US action
                             -POWs
     -POWs
           -Red Cross
           -US offer
                 -Prisoners
           -Possible US action
                 -Laos and Cambodia
                 -North Vietnam
     -Negotiations
           -The President's conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
           -POWs
           -US offer of economic aid
                 -Southeast Asia
                       -North and South Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos
                       -US goals
     -PRC and USSR assistance to North Vietnam
           -PRC-USSR relations
                 -The President’s conversations with Gromyko
                 -Leonid I. Brezhnev
     -The President's forthcoming trips to PRC and USSR
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)



     Taiwan
         -US commitments
         -US-PRC relations
              -Diplomatic relations

     The President's forthcoming trip to USSR
          -Consultation with European allies
          -Timing

     US-USSR relations
         -Glassboro summit
         -Berlin settlement
               -Autobahn closing
         -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SLAT]
         -Middle East
         -Central Europe
         -Southeast Asia
         -Middle East
               -United Arab Republic [UAR]
               -Jordan crisis
         -SALT
         -Effect of possible war
         -Trade
         -Possible European security conference
               -Georges J.R. Pompidou
               -Timing
               -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
               -Warsaw pact
               -Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
               -Berlin
               -Gromyko's views
         -SALT
               -Intercontinental ballistic missiles [ICBMs]
               -Polaris submarines
               -Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
               -NATO and Warsaw pact

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:21 am.

     Gandhi's schedule
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)


          -National Press Club

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:20 pm.

     US-USSR relations
         -Possible European security conference
              -British
                    -Edward R.G. Heath
              -Germans
              -MBFR
                    -Europeans' views
         -Possible European security conference
              -Europeans' views
                    -USSR interest
                           -Possible motivation
                    -Italy
              -Pompidou and Brezhnev
              -Timetable
                    -Berlin Agreement
                           -East and West Germany
         -The President's forthcoming trips to PRC and USSR
              -Timing

     Middle East
         -Status
               -Cease-fire
               -Anwar el-Sadat
         -Cease-fire
         -USSR’s role
               -UAR
               -US
                     -Israel
         -Negotiations
               -Problems
                     -Interim settlement
                     -Israel
                           -Withdrawal
                                -Principle
                                      -Israeli public
                                -Details
               -Arab nations
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)


                     -Dissension
                          -UAR
                          -Jordan
          -Cease-fire
               -USSR interest
          -USSR and US
               -Influence

     US foreign policy

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:21 am.

     Gandhi's schedule
         -Press

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:20 pm.

     United states foreign policy
          -1969
          -India
                -Media
          -Middle East
          -Berlin Agreement
          -Biological war ban
          -Non-proliferation agreement
          -Okinawa
                -Japan
          -PRC
          -International Monetary Fund [IMF]
          -Prospects
                -Peace and progress
                -Hope
                      -Pragmatism
          -The President's first meeting with Gandhi in 1953
          -The President's visits to Rumania and Yugoslavia
          -Goals

     US efforts

     Problems
          -Nehru
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                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 615-23 (cont.)


           -Gandhi
           -American’s perceptions
           -Handling
               -Leaders’ responsibilities
                     -The President
                          -As Asia-Firster, Europe-Firster

     Picture

     Gift for the president

The President, Gandhi, et al., left at 12:20 pm.