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Conversation: 618-003

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Start Date: 11-Nov-1971 10:26 AM

End Date: 11-Nov-1971 10:51 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Whitaker, John C.Butz, Earl L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:10:19

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:26:12

618a.mp3

618b.mp3

618c.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, John C. Whitaker, and Earl L. Butz met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:26 am and 10:51 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 618-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 618-3

Date: November 11, 1971
Time: Unknown after 10:26 am until 10:51 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman and John C. Whitaker.

     The President's previous conversation with John N. Mitchell
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 618-3 (cont.)


     Government reorganization
         -Earl L. Butz
         -Executive departments
               -Number

Butz entered at 10:35 am.

     Butz
            -Experience with Agriculture Department

     Agriculture
          -Corn prices
                -The President's conversation with Carl T. Curtis
                -Administration's policy
                      -Correctness
                      -Strategy
                            -Reserve
                                  -Set-aside
                                  -Community Credit Corporation [CCC]
                -Clark MacGregor
                      -Curtis’s statement
                -Jack R. Miller
                -Symbolism
                      -1950s
                -Grain sales to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                -Great Depression

     Herbert C. Hoover and Franklin D. Roosevelt

     Agriculture
          -Corn prices
                -Political considerations
          -Mitchell
                -Conversation with Butz, November 11, 1971
                -Conversation with the President
          -Butz's role
          -Clifford M. Hardin
                -Role
          -Farmers
                -Need for spokesman
          -Corn
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 618-3 (cont.)


                -Strategic reserve
                      -Legislative prospects
                            -Views of Hyde Murray and Clarence D. Palmby
                -Surplus
                      -Predicted blights
                      -Handling
                -Political importance
                      -States
           -Soybeans
           -Prospects for 1972
                -Hogs
                -Corn prices
                      -Farmer participation in programs
           -Role of Secretary of Agriculture
           -Farmers

     The President's schedule
          -Mary (Powell) Butz
          -Martha L. (Wood) Hardin
          -Forthcoming statement regarding Department of Agriculture
               -Preparation
                      -Ronald L. Ziegler
                      -Chet Holifield

The President, Ehrlichman et al., left at 10:51 am.