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Start Date: 16-Nov-1971 11:13 AM

End Date: 16-Nov-1971 11:38 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)McCracken, Paul W.Shultz, George P.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:15:10

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:41:04

619a.mp3

619b.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Paul W. McCracken, George P. Shultz, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:13 am to 11:38 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 619-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 619-12

Date: November 16, 1971
Time: 11:13 am - 11:38 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Paul W. McCracken and George P. Shultz.

     Shultz’s schedule

     Seating arrangements

     McCracken's previous trip to Japan
         -Report
              -Economic figures
              -John B. Connally

     National economy
          -Gross National Product [GNP]
                -Estimates
                      -Rate of change
          -Price Index
                -Inflation
                -Arthur F. Burns
          -GNP
                -Real output
                -Estimates
                      -Error
                           -Department of Commerce
          -Housing starts
          -GNP
                                      14

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 619-12 (cont.)


          -Public concern
          -Growth
     -Unemployment
     -Auto sales
          -Deadline
          -Ford Motor Company

International monetary system
      -Memorandum
      -Business reaction
           -New York
      -Prospects for negotiation
           -Exchange rates
                  -Compared to pre-October 15, 1971 period
      -US negotiating position
           -Other nations' domestic concerns
                  -Japan
                         -Recession
                  -Italy
                         -Recession
                  -Great Britain
      -McCracken’s schedule
           -Paris
                  -Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development [OECD]
                         meeting
                         -McCracken’s possible statement
      -Europeans' position
           -Surcharge
           -Gold prices
           -Great Britain
           -France
           -Italy
           -Deutschemark
                  -Dollar
      -Japanese concerns
           -Okinawa
                  -Connally's visit
                         -Diet
           -McCracken's conversation with Minister for Economic Planning
                  -Consultations
                         -Press coverage
                                      15

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 619-12 (cont.)



US business community
    -Auto sales
    -Maurice H. Stans
    -James M. Roche
          -General Motor [GM]
    -Reaction to the President's economic program
          -Profits
                -Labor
    -Responsibility
    -Business schools
    -Business Council
          -Donald McI. Kendall
          -Coca-Cola
          -Activities
    -Foreign policy
          -Labor
    -1960's conditions
          -1968
                -Prosperity
                      -War
                      -Inflation
          -Compared to 1971
    -Congress
    -Germans and Japanese
    -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
    -Education
          -Labor leaders
                -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                -George Meany
    -Government assistance
    -McCracken
          -Dissertation advisory
                -[Forename unknown] Schoepinger [sp?]
          -Shultz, the President and Connally
    -Views regarding labor unions
    -Chambers of Commerce

Education
    -Wealth
          -Decline of nations
                                                16

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 619-12 (cont.)



     Businessmen
          -Charles G. Mortimer
          -Harold L. (“Red”) Curtis
          -[Forename unknown] Barrows [sp?]

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:13 am.

     The President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:38 am.

     National economy
          -Sales
                -Tax Bill
                     -Possible effect of passage
                           -Inventories
                           -Plant equipment spending
                -Retail
                     -Automobiles
                -[Forename unknown] O'Reilly's [sp?] story in Wall Street Journal, November
                     15, 1971
                     -Inventories

     McCracken
         -Conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, November 15, 1971
         -Tenure in office
              -Phase II
         -Successor
              -Herbert G. Stein

     Stein
             -Health
             -Possible role with administration
                  -Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
             -Memorandum regarding money supply
                  -Burns
                  -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]

     National economy
          -Money supply
                                              17

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 619-12 (cont.)


                -Burns
                      -Connally
                      -The President's conversation with George E. Allen
                -Short-term rates
                -Stein's views
                      -Monetarism
                            -Burns

     Clifford M. Hardin
           -Farm bill
           -Departure
              -Conversation with the President
           -Successor

     McCracken
         -Successor
              -Shultz and Connally
              -The President's schedule
              -Stein
              -Ezra Solomon

     FRB
           -Vacancies

     McCracken
         -Successor
         -Departure
              -Press

     Economic figures

McCracken and Shultz left at 11:38 am.