Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 621 › Conversation 621-036

Nixon & Allen on Washington Redskins and Professional football

Monday, November 22, 1971 · 8:20 AM–8:27 AM ET · Oval Office · 9 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Allen, George E.Conversation621-036 on Tape 621 (tape position 03:48:44–03:58:11)StartMonday, November 22, 1971 at 8:20 AMEndMonday, November 22, 1971 at 8:27 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 621-036 ↗

President Richard M. Nixon met with George E. Allen for an informal discussion primarily centered on professional football. The conversation focused on the performance and prospects of the Washington Redskins, specifically analyzing their recent game results and upcoming schedule. The two exchanged observations regarding team strategy, player health, and the team's outlook for the remainder of the season.

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On November 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George E. Allen met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:20 am to 8:27 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 621-036 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 621-36

Date: November 22, 1971
Time: 8:20 am - 8:27 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with George E. Allen.

[See Conversation No. 15-82; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

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Yes, I'll get you here.
Yeah, any coffee?
Hi, how are you?
Uh, there's some dates that should be put in this book for the month of December on, uh, trips.
As soon as they come in, I think, uh, I think, uh, I was gonna say, uh,
What else?
You went to Kent State.
You went to Kent State, didn't you?
Yeah.
You've been there since?
I haven't been back.
You've been back since you left her?
I went back to Hong Kong in the first year, so I haven't really been back since then.
I think it's changed quite a lot.
Yeah.
What year did you graduate?
68.
68?
Yeah.
What's a fine school?
You haven't had a good time since you left her.
Do you live here then?
My home is in Southeastern Ohio, which is about two and a half hours.
That's up north.
And that's kind of where they're acting, isn't it?
Or where do the kids go there?
Do they go to sleep when they're acting?
Actually, they stay around camp.
They do?
There's not a whole lot.
How much per town is that?
The town itself is probably about 10,000.
The students are another...
Another 20,000.
Yeah, big school, big school.
Do you ever hear from, do they ever, do they write you at the exits and so forth out there?
You know, I went to a lot of the alumni groups, you know, such as meeting Dr. Olds, who's the new president.
Sure.
I had a fee for him in Washington.
Yeah.
But you don't keep in contact particularly with your father?
My brother is there now, so I...
Your brother's there for one or two of them?
Just one.
What?
Just one.
One.
And what's he studying?
He's studying immigration.
Immigration.
We hope he'll be here.
Unfortunately, I think he's stumbling through.
He's not quite sure what he wants to do.
He's changed majors pretty hard.
How many brothers do you have?
I just have one.
Sisters?
Yes.
but of course they're not.
so let him stop a little while.
How many years is he?
This will be a cast.
I'm sure he'll teach a year.
It's hard, I think, for some students these days.
Everyone goes to college.
I'm afraid my brother's probably the one that maybe should have gone into the service.
Yeah, yeah.
He doesn't know whether he goes to the service yet or not.
I think his number is 316.
So he's safe.
Yeah, everything is good.
I think it might be a good experience.
And maybe they'll be bored for a while and say, do we see him?
But I've never seen really anybody who went in who, what I've watched, there are men who have gone in and said, well, right where that is, I'll never really get to do it.
And there's great opportunities to create the peacetime service you want to do.
That was a nice picture of you on the paper with the students.
With the kids, yeah.
Yeah, they're from Cincinnati.
You know that high school is Wyoming High School in Cincinnati.
So I'm from Wyoming High School.
I'm a favorite from Wyoming.
Nice opportunity for you.
Nice.
You take the opportunities that young people have.
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Conversation 621-036, November 22, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/621-036 (accessed November 8, 2026).