Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 621 › Conversation 621-028

Nixon, Cox & Eisenhower on AFL-CIO and Television Coverage

Saturday, November 20, 1971 · 10:57 AM–11:10 AM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon; Bull, Stephen B.; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon; Woods, Rose Mary; Bible, AlanConversation621-028 on Tape 621 (tape position 02:37:38–02:48:26)StartSaturday, November 20, 1971 at 10:57 AMEndSaturday, November 20, 1971 at 11:10 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 621-028 ↗

President Nixon met with family members Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower, along with aides Stephen B. Bull and Rose Mary Woods, and Senator Alan Bible. The discussion focused on television coverage of the President's recent address to the AFL-CIO convention and the handling of various personal telegrams, including correspondence from Mrs. Lou Gehrig. The participants also touched upon administrative tasks, such as the processing of documents and the management of office communications.

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Position in tape: 02:37:38 – 02:48:26

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On November 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, Stephen B. Bull, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Rose Mary Woods, and Alan Bible met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:57 am and 11:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 621-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 621-28

Date: November 20, 1971
Time: 10:57 am - unknown before 11:10 am
Location: Oval Office

Tricia Nixon Cox talked with the President between 10:57 and 11:01 am.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 4m 20s ]

[Conversation No. 621-28A]

[See Conversation No. 15-71; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

Stephen B. Bull and Julie Nixon Eisenhower entered at 11:01 am.

The President conferred with Bull during the phone conversation.

Bull left at 11:01 am.

[End of telephone conversation]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     The President's speech to American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial
           Organizations [AFL-CIO] convention
          -Television coverage
          -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo, Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon and [Dwight] David
               Eisenhower, II

Rose Mary Woods entered at 11:03 am.

           -Telegrams
                -Copies
                -Mrs. Lou Gehrig

The President talked with Alan Bible between 11:03 am and 11:05 am.

[Conversation No. 621-28B]

[See Conversation No. 15-72; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]

Woods left at 11:04 am.

     Telegram from Gehrig
          -David Eisenhower

     Portrait
           -George Washington

     The President's speech to AFL-CIO convention
          -Television coverage

     [Pause]

Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 11:10 am.

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But, uh... Did he?
Sure.
Well, you know, I, you know, I have a, as some of this, as somebody has said, you know, what he came into office for was us two.
George Dean and some of his friends.
And I have been very considerate.
I've had him in here more than Johnson has me.
with the random file you're counting, and also the random file on the cost of living held down by God knows what I'm doing.
Well, let me say this.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me tell you, I know, and I've told several other politicians, close to, well, you guys first have got to get in.
And the second thing, no, we don't have to.
And we know that what will go in one place is going to go in another.
And I understand it totally.
But when there's a real problem, by the way, you know.
Right.
Oh, you're not.
We are going to have to do it over.
Okay.
I know, I know.
And you wouldn't remember doing your district unless you were taking a little bit of a walk.
Okay, well, good luck now.
And give my best to your wife, will you?
Whoo!
What are you driving?
Oh, God, no.
You might have a hell of a lawsuit.
Yeah, I do too.
We're glad to have you and we'll see you back at 4 one day, okay?
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  • 621-026 10:50 AM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:50 am to 10:51 am.
  • 015-070 10:52 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Seymour Halpern talked on the telephone from 10:52 am to 10:54 am.
  • 621-027 10:52 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Seymour Halpern met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:52 am to 10:54 am.
  • 015-071 10:57 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, Stephen B. Bull, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 10:57 am to 11:01 am.
  • 015-072 11:02 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alan Bible talked on the telephone from 11:02 am to 11:05 am.
  • 621-029 11:05 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:05 am and 11:10 am.

Conversation 621-028, November 20, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/621-028 (accessed November 2, 2026).