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Start Date: 24-Nov-1971 2:40 PM

End Date: 24-Nov-1971 3:11 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Halaby, Najeeb E.Flanigan, Peter M.White House photographerSanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:41:48

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:14:08

624a.mp3

624b.mp3

624c.mp3

624d.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 24, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Najeeb E. Halaby, Peter M. Flanigan, White House photographer, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:40 pm to 3:11 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 624-024 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 624-24

Date: November 24, 1971
Time: 2:40 pm - 3:11 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Najeeb E. Halaby and Peter M. Flanigan; the White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Flanigan's and Halaby's schedules

     The President's schedule
          -California
                                              42

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 624-24 (cont.)


     Halaby's background and experience
          -Pan American Airlines
          -US Naval Reserve
                -The President
                -New Hampshire
          -The President
          -Phil Watts

     Pan American World Airways [Pan Am]
          -Corporate earnings
               -History and prospects
          -Board of Directors
               -Donald McI. Kendall
               -Robert B. Anderson
               -William T. Coleman, Jr.
               -William W. Scranton
               -Age
               -Otis Chandler
          -Layoffs
          -Competition
               -Lyndon B. Johnson's Civil Aeronautics Board [CAB] chairmen
                     -Route awards
               -Numbers
               -Non-scheduled airlines
                     -Routes

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 2:40 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:11 pm.

     Airline routes
           -Competition
                -Non-scheduled airlines
                -Pan Am
                -Trans World Airlines [TWA]
           -Non-scheduled airlines
                -Congress lobby
                     -Truckers
                     -Flanigan’s view
                                          43

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 624-24 (cont.)


     -Profitability
     -Non-scheduled airlines
           -CAB
                 -Enforcement of affinity group rules
                 -Secor D. Browne
     -Pan Am and TWA
           -The President’s view
     -Non-scheduled airlines
     -CAB
           -Browne's performance
                 -Flanigan’s view

Pan Am
     -Shareholders and employees
     -Role
     -Competitors
     -Halaby's forthcoming conversation with Flanigan
     -The President's possible conversations
           -John B. Connally and John N. Mitchell
           -Connally
                -Role with American Airlines
     -Financial problems
           -Possible mergers
                -TWA
                -Domestic carriers
                      -Anti-trust laws
                            -The President’s view
                -Herbert Brownwell’s conversation
                -TWA
                      -Flanigan's previous conversation with Charles C. Tillinghast, Jr.
     -US competitive position in world
           -The President’s view
     -Possible merger
           -Domestic carriers
           -TWA

Pending mergers before CAB
     -American Airlines-Western Airlines
     -Eastern Airlines
     -Delta Airlines-Northeast Airlines
     -National Airlines-Northwest Airlines
                                        44

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 624-24 (cont.)


     -American Airlines-Western Airlines
          -Department of Transportation
          -Department of Justice
     -Mitchell
     -Legal distinction between domestic and foreign airlines
          -Extraterritoriality

TWA
   -Financial situation
        -Fare increases

Pan Am
     -Lack of domestic routes
     -Possible government assistance
          -Anti-trust
                -Scandanavian Airlines System [SAS] and Sabena
                -Pooling
                -The President’s position
     -Supersonic Transport [SST]
          -CAB
     -Pending legislation
          -Tax loss carryback
          -Military set-aside
                -Cargo
          -Loan guarantees
                -Compared with railroads
                -Vance Hartke bill

Government subsidies
    -John D. Ehrlichman
    -Airlines and railroads

Pan Am
     -Market share
     -Wage rates
         -Pilots
         -Compared with Lufthansa

Air traffic growth
      -Economy
                                        45

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 624-24 (cont.)


Pan Am
     -Support for the President's policies
          -Vietnam
          -People's Republic of China [PRC]
     -Possible resumption of service to PRC
          -China National Aviation Corps [CNAC]
          -The President's forthcoming trip
                 -Possible press charter
     -Route to Soviet Union and Eastern Europe
          -The President's previous conversation with Nikita S. Khrushchev
          -Halaby’s view
     -The President's forthcoming trips to PRC and Soviet Union
          -Press corps numbers
          -Possible use of Pan Am
                 -The President’s view
                 -Halaby’s view

US-Japan trade
     -Peter G. Peterson's group
           -David Rockefeller, Halaby, Carl Gustaf [sp?] and George C. McGhee
     -US relations with PRC

Japan
     -Compared with PRC
          -The President’s view
     -Okinawa
     -Relationship with US
          -Relationship with PRC

World powers
    -The President’s view
         -US
         -Western Europe
         -Soviet Union
         -China
         -Japan
         -Latin America
         -Asia

Japan
     -Future role in the world
                                               46

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 624-24 (cont.)


           -US trade policy
                -New Economic Policy [NEP]

     SST
           -Affordability
           -Air Force One

     Pan Am
          -Stewardesses

Halaby and Flanigan left at 3:11 pm.