Conversation: 625-012
Prev: 625-011 Next: 625-013Start Date: 29-Nov-1971 8:38 AM
End Date: 29-Nov-1971 10:42 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N.; Ehrlichman, John D.; MacGregor, Clark; Timmons, William E.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:59:47
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:05:40
NARA Description:
On November 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:38 am to 10:42 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 625-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 625-12
Date: November 29, 1971
Time: 8:38 am - 10:42 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John N. Mitchell, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor and William E.
Timmons.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
Pending legislation
-Tax Bill
-Forthcoming Senate-House conference
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Revenue-sharing
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-John O. Pastore's amendment
-Tax check-off provision
-MacGregor's possible conversations
-Russell B. Long, Wallace F. Bennett, John W. Byrnes and Mills
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.’s amendment
-Pastore
-Possible veto
-Possible special session of Congress
-Financing political campaigns
-"Added Dollar" concept
-Treasury Department role
-Democrats
-Joseph W. Alsop's previous column
-Baker and Pastore amendments
-Effects
-Public hearings
-1966 congressional action
-Robert F Kennedy and Albert A. Gore, Sr.
-Possible effects
-Convention delegates
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr. and Clifford P. Case
-Pastore amendment
-Possible veto
-Byrnes's views
-William L. Springer’s views
-Possible effects
-The President's previous conversation with George E. Allen
-William Jennings Bryant/William McKinley campaign
-Harry S. Truman
-Campaign workers
-Jews and labor
-Democrats
-Israel
-Dwight D. Eisenhower's policy
-John Foster Dulles
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-Gamal Abdel Nasser
th
-26 Amendment
-Financing political campaigns
-Possible effects
-Blacks
-Intelligence
-George C. Wallace
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Democrats
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Wallace
-Possible veto
-William E. Brock, III's views
-Effects
-Public relations
-Possible leak
-Bennett and Byrnes
-Mills
-Byrnes
-Mills
-Byrnes
-Possible veto
-Everett M. Dirksen
-Possible veto
-Business
-Alan Cranston
-Possibilities in House
-William M. Colmer and Joe D. Waggonner, Jr.
-George H. Mahon
-MacGregor's previous conversation with administrative assistant
-Mills
-The President’s view
-Unknown man
-Possible veto
-Special session
-Karl E. Mundt
-William Proxmire
-Byrnes
-Mahon
-Colmer
-Financing political campaigns
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-Possible effects
-Democrats
-Possible presidential candidates
-The President's schedule
-Possible veto
-The President's schedule
-Possible veto
-Special session
-The President's economic policy
-Possible veto
-Special session
-Long and Mills
-The President's possible speech
-Possible letter
-John B. Connally
Aged
-Social Security
-Inflation
-The President's constituency
Pending legislation
-Tax Bill
-Congress
-Financing political campaigns
-Democratic National Convention
-Phone company
-News report
-Congress
-Welfare reform
-The President's schedule
-Possible veto
-Pastore amendment
-The President's possible statement
-Conference Committee
-The President's possible statement
-Possible letter
-Senate conferees
-Mills, Long, Byrnes and John C. Stennis
-The President's possible letter
-Effect
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-Content
-Conference Committee
-Possible instructions
-Pastore Amendment
-Possible special session
-Possible veto
-Financing political campaigns
-Israel
-Golda Meir’s possible visit to the US
-US military assistance
-American Jews
-The President’s policy
-The Presidential election
-State Department
-American Jews
-American Quakers
-The President's policy
-1972 campaign
-Democratic candidates
-Financing
-Possible problems
-Effect
-Proliferation of parties
-Owing debts to supporters
-Democrats
-Labor councils
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Baker's views
-Responsibility to supporters
-Humphrey and Muskie
-Responsibility to supporters
-Arthur Summerfield's efforts
-Business community
-1964 and 1968 campaigns
-Barry M. Goldwater
-MacGregor's work
-Effect
-Puerto Rican experience
-Tax argument
-Tax evasion
-The President's possible statement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-People's Republic of China [PRC] announcement
-The President's possible letter to Congressmen
-Publicity
-Response
-The President’s views
-Ronald L. Ziegler's possible statement
-MacGregor's possible statement
-Congress's schedule
-Connally’s view
-Possible special session
-Timing
-The President's schedule
-Bermuda
-Azores
-Possible special session
-Conflict with the President
-Cabinet's possible action
-The President's economic program
National economy
-The President's program
-Proxmire's views
-Effectiveness
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Prediction by New York firm
Pending legislation
-Tax Bill
-Possible veto
-Businessmen
-Charles W. Colson, William L. Safire and Peter M. Flanigan
-MacGregor's conversation with William S. White
-Horace C. (“Chappie”) Rose
-Shultz
Los Angeles Times story on Vietnam
-Doves
-Robert B. Semple, Jr.
-Ziegler's statement
Pending legislation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-Domestic issues
-PRC trip announcement
-Tax Bill
-Financing political campaigns
-MacGregor's possible statement
-Creation of new jobs
-Congressional action
-Possible veto
-Mitchell's possible statement
-Constitutionality
-The President’s possible statement
-Possible veto
-Mills's possible action
-Elliot L. Richardson's possible statements
-Federal spending
-Political campaigns
-MacGregor's possible statement
-Congress's schedule
-Effect
-Congressional action
-Effect
-Possible veto
-Purpose
-Effect of legislation
-Possible veto
-Mills
-Timing
-Stock market
-PRC trip announcement
-Stock market
-Southern Democrats' views
-Thomas G. Wicker's views
-William H. Rehnquist
The nation
-Politics
-The President's accomplishments
-Supreme Court
Pending legislation
-Tax Bill
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-Timing of vote
-MacGregor's possible meeting
-Mills
-Possible veto
-Effect
-Financing political campaigns
-Stewart J.O. Alsop's previous column
-Effect
-The President’s view
-Welfare reform
-Government reorganization
-Revenue-sharing
-Tax Bill
-Financing political campaigns
-Legislative history
-Pressure on presidents
-"Bad" provisions of "good" bills
-Effect
-Newsmen's views
-Howard K. Smith
-[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-MacGregor's possible statement
-Robert F. Kennedy and Gore
-Effect of passage
-Effects
-Number of parties
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Wallace
-John F. Kennedy
-As national issue
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming conversation with Herbert G. Klein
-MacGregor's possible statement
-Congress's schedule
-House version
-Gerald R. Ford and Hugh Scott
-The President's schedule
-Financing political campaigns
-Ford's views
-Brock's views
-Previous conversation with the President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-As national issue
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak
-Finances of Republicans and Democrats
-Possible statements
-Robert J. Dole
-Samuel L. Devine
-John [Surname unintelligible]
-Waggonner, Mahon, and Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
Southern Democrats supporting the President's programs
-Republican opposition in 1972
-Mahon's conversation with MacGregor
-Michael J. Mansfield amendment
-Previous records
-Timmons's research
Earl L. Butz
-Confirmation
-Robert C. Byrd
-Alternatives
-Clarence D. Palmby
-John H. Kyl
-Farm organizations
-Views of Bryce N. Harlow and John C. Whitaker
-Selection
-The President's meeting with Carl T. Curtis
-MacGregor's knowledge
-Views of Dole, Jack R. Miller and Curtis
-Confirmation
-MacGregor's efforts
-George D. Aiken's suggestions
-Butz's association with related organizations
-4-H
-MacGregor's conversation with Herman E. Talmadge
-Miller's views
-Ezra Taft Benson and Orville L. Freeman
-Possible actions in office
-Confirmation
-Constituents' letters to James B. Pearson
-Whitaker's possible efforts
-American Farm Bureau
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 625-12 (cont.)
-Performance
-Clifford M. Hardin’s view
-Alternatives
-Palmby
-Possible withdrawal of nomination
-Confirmation
-Effect on Rehnquist and Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Paul J. Fannin's views
-Effect on Rehnquist
-Administration's efforts
-Possible withdrawal of nomination
-Aiken's conversations with MacGregor
-Miller
-Pearson
-MacGregor's conversations
-Timmons and Thomas C. Korologos
-Mitchell
-Possible withdrawal of nomination
-Administration's efforts
-MacGregor's conversation with Miller
-Walter J. Hickel
MacGregor's schedule
Mitchell, et al., left at 10:42 am.