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Start Date: 30-Nov-1971 5:21 PM

End Date: 30-Nov-1971 6:09 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Kissinger, Henry A.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:35:58

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:24:24

626a.mp3

626b.mp3

626c.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:21 pm to 6:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 626-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 626-14

Date: November 30, 1971
Time: 5:21 pm - 6:09 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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    Earl L. Butz

    Public relations
         -President’s previous speech to American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial
               Organizations [AFL-CIO] convention
                -Photograph
                -Music
                     -George Meany
                -Photograph
                     -Teamster photographer
                     -Frank E. Fitzsimmons's conversation with Colson
                     -Effect
                     -Possible use
                            -Time magazine
                            -Wire service
                -Meany
                     -Illness
                -Mail to White House
                -Editorials

    Environmental Protection Agency [EPA]
         -Ronald H. Nessen
              -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
              -Possible role
              -Daniel L. Schorr
                   -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
              -Possible role
                   -John C. Whitaker and Frederic V. Malek
                         -Neighborhood cleanup program
                   -Russell E. Train and William D. Ruckelshaus
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                 -Public education
                 -Effect
                      -Compared to Claude W. Gifford
                            -Efforts at Agriculture Department
                                 -Mailings
                                 -Television
                                 -Radio

Butz
       -Confirmation

Supreme Court
     -Confirmations

Romana Acosta Banuelos
    -Confirmation
         -Delay
              -Effects
              -Senate Finance Committee

National economy
     -Stock market
           -Prospects
           -Volume
           -Possible veto of Tax Bill

Pending legislation
     -Tax Bill
          -Henry C. Cashen, II’s report
          -Activities of business organizations
                 -Russell B. Long
          -John B. Anderson
                 -Network time in political campaigns
                       -John O. Pastore
                       -Networks' views
     -"315"
          -Previous vote on repeal
                 -Presidential office
          -White House position
                 -1972 campaign
                       -Possible debates
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                              -1960 election
                              -White House position
                    -1968 campaign
                    -George C. Wallace
                    -"315"
                         -Wallace

    James Perry of National Observer
         -The President's conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
         -Relationship with Colson
         -Attacks on administration
         -Audience
         -News summary
              -National Observer and New Republic
         -Story concerning Edmund S. Muskie


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 3m 5s ]


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    National economy
         -Paul W. McCracken's report
               -Conference Board survey
         -Forthcoming Commerce Department report
               -Colson's conversation with Harold C. Passer and James T. Lynn
               -Plant and equipment survey
         -Milton Friedman's views
         -McCracken's views
         -Unemployment
               -James D. Hodgson's views
               -McCracken's views
               -John B. Connally's views
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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               -Statistical formulation
          -Passer's views
               -Revisions of leading economic indicators
               -Previous conversation with Colson
          -Stock market
               -Wire service reports

     Henry A. Kissinger

     National economy
          -Stock market
                -Wire services

Henry A. Kissinger entered and Colson left at 5:40 pm.

     Forthcoming meeting

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time between 5:40 pm and
5:45 pm.

[Conversation No. 626-14A]

     The President's forthcoming speech at White House Conference on Aging
          -John D. Ehrlichman
          -The President's conversation with Raymond K. Price, Jr.
               -Ehrlichman's conversation with Price
          -Unknown man's possible conversation with Ehrlichman

[End of telephone conversation]

     Kissinger's previous press briefing
          -India-Pakistan
                -State Department action
                      -US policy
          -John A. Scali's views
                -Conversation with Haldeman
          -The President's schedule
                -Press questions on foreign visits
                      -People's Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union

Haldeman talked with the President between 5:45 pm and 5:46 pm.
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[Conversation No. 626-14B]

[See Conversation No. 15-177]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Kissinger's previous press briefing
          -The President's international policies
          -Scali's conversation with Haldeman
          -The President's schedule
                -Foreign visits
          -John B. Connally
                -Role in international monetary policy
          -PRC
          -Taiwan
                -US policy
          -Thelma C. (“Pat’) Nixon's forthcoming trip to PRC
                -Schedule
                -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
                -Press contingent
                      -Size
                            -PRC
                      -Television
                            -Ground station
                -Hangchow
                      -Forthcoming meeting with Mao Tse-tung
                            -Peking
          -Press reception

     The President's schedule
          -Foreign visits and visitors
          -Press conference
               -News coverage
                      -Tax Bill
                      -Butz and Meany

     India-Pakistan
           -Kissinger's schedule
           -US policy
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               -State Department
               -Export licenses
                     -Aircraft
                     -Ammunition


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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    PRC


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    The President's schedule
         -National Security Council [NSC] meeting
              -Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
              -European Security Conference
              -MBFR
                     -Michael J. Mansfield
                     -Options
                          -State Department
              -European Security Conference
                     -Soviet strategy
                     -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
                     -US strategy
                          -Timing
                                 -Berlin Agreement
                     -Soviet strategy
                          -Finland
                                 -Ambassador to Finland, Val Paterson

    European Security Conference
         -NATO meeting
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      -US policy
            -State Department
      -European nations' policy
            -MBFR
            -Germany
      -The President's schedule
            -Heads of State
                  -Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle
                  -Georges J.R. Pompidou
                       -Germany
      -Willy Brandt's views
      -William P. Rogers's views

Vietnam
     -Military plans
           -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
           -Senate recess
           -Bombing
     -Negotiations

Henry Brandon
     -Forthcoming book on the President's foreign policy
          -Conversation with Kissinger
          -Meetings with the President
               -Timing
               -Ziegler
     -Conversation with Kissinger
          -Role of State Department in foreign affairs
               -PRC
               -Cambodia
                     -State Department
               -Documentation
               -Rogers

PRC
      -Messages from US

Rogers
    -Kissinger’s view
    -Schedule
         -Senators
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          -Speech
     -Activities
     -Compared with Clark M. Clifford
     -Relations with press
     -Conversation with Henry Truitt

State Department
      -Kissinger's previous relationship with Elliot L. Richardson
      -Rogers
           -The President’s view

Kissinger's schedule
     -Business Council
           -Peter M. Flanigan
           -The President’s view

The President's schedule
     -National 4-H Congress speech in Chicago
     -NSC meeting
     -Speech at White House Conference on Aging
     -Visit to PRC
           -Press reaction
           -Rogers's previous comment to Truitt
                 -India-Pakistan
           -Kissinger's relations with PRC
                 -Kissinger's conversation with Brandon
           -Possible results
           -Soviet Union
           -Rogers
           -Soviet Union
           -Indian Foreign Minister
                 -Indira Gandhi
           -Rumania
           -Rogers's comment
                 -Truitt's conversation with Scali
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                                Conv. No. 626-14 (cont.)


     State Department
           -Scali's views
                 -Rogers
           -Relations with White House
                 -Press
                 -Rogers

     India-Pakistan
           -US policy
                -Rogers’s comment to press
                      -PRC
                -Kissinger’s view
                      -Soviet Union
                      -PRC

     Rogers
         -Views regarding Israel
              -John N. Mitchell's opinion regarding motive
              -Kissinger’s view
                   -Soviet Union

     Middle East
         -US policy

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:46 pm.

     Coat

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:09 pm.

     Middle East

     Kissinger's previous press briefing
          -State Department
          -Rogers
                -Forthcoming speech
                      -Ziegler
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           -Kissinger’s potential statement
           -Taiwan
           -PRC

The President and Kissinger left at 6:09 pm.