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Conversation: 627-004

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Start Date: 1-Dec-1971 11:00 AM

End Date: 1-Dec-1971 11:29 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Rogers, William P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:07:14

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:28:10

627a.mp3

627b.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 1, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and William P. Rogers met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:29 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 627-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 627-4

Date: December 1, 1971
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)



Time: Unknown between 11:00 am and 11:29 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger and William P. Rogers.
[The recording begins at an unknown time while the conversation is already in progress]

     Middle East situation
         -Forthcoming talks with Golda Meir
               -Difference of opinion
               -Need for a long-term agreement
                     -Essential for survival and security
               -Phantom jets
                     -Proposed delivery in the future
                           -Contingency plans
               -Security
                     -US assurances
               -Meir
                     -Possible attitude during negotiations after General Assembly debate
                           -Potential pitfalls
               -Anwar el-Sadat
               -Rogers’ plan
                     -Negotiations after General Assembly debate
                           -Timing
                                 -Presidential campaign
                                 -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
               -Israel
                     -Possible concessions
                           -Differences in opinion
                                 -Possible advantages
                                       -Egypt
                                       -[Hussein, King of Jordan], Hussein ibn Talal
               -Meir
                     -Recommendations
                           -US recognition of Israel’s security needs
                           -Concern for future
                                 -Possible shift after Presidential elections
                     -Recommendations
               -Arabs and Sadat
                     -Eager for negotiations
                           -Sadat’s position
                                 -Creating pressure for the General Assembly debate
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 627-4 (cont.)


                           -Potential trouble for Sadat
                                -Lack of supporters [Congo, Dominican Republic]
-US position
      -President’s State of the World message, February 25, 1971 [?]
-Rogers’ forthcoming talks with Meir
-President’s recommendations for Israel
      -Negotiations
      -Security
      -Political interest
            -Phantoms
            -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] build-up
                   -Proposed sale of weapons
            -“Hawks”
-Kissinger’s view
      -US pressure on Israel
            -Potential diplomatic problems with the Arabs and USSR at the General
                   Assembly
-Rogers’ view
      -Importance of agreement
            -Phantoms
            -Future debate at the United Nations [UN]
                   -Timing
-Meir
      -Reassurances
      -Interim agreement
            -Relationship to final agreement
            -Potential misunderstandings of US policy
      -No shift in the military balance
      -Working together with the US
            -Phantoms
            -Military supplies discussions
                   -Announcement
                         -Timing
            -USSR
                   -Military supplies
                         -Upcoming announcement
                              -Arabs
-Israel
      -Desire for a negotiated settlement
      -Meir
            -Problems
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 627-4 (cont.)


                      -Knesset
                      -Cabinet
                      -“Dove and Hawks”
                      -Yosef Saphir, Yigal Allon and Moshe Dayan
                      -Saphir’s financial report
                           -Military equipment expenses

European Security Conference
     -Rogers’ upcoming speech
          -USSR
               -Future meetings with the USSR in 1972 or 1973
                     -Advantages
     -Rogers’ meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower and Nikita S. Khrushchev
               -Past meeting
                     -Dobrynin apology
     -Summit with USSR
          -Timing
               -Carefulness with US allies
                     -Future discussions in Hawaii
                          -Deputy foreign ministers meeting
     -Timing

Rogers's trip to Iceland
    -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
            -Iceland military base

President’s schedule
     -Pierre F. Trudeau
     -Italian meeting
            -John B. Connally
                 -Upcoming Italian elections
                      -Aldo Moro
     -People's Republic of China [PRC] trip
            -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

Monetary issues
    -Latin America
          -Surcharge exemptions
    -Connally
    -Europeans
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 627-4 (cont.)


           -Japanese
           -No potential deals

Kissinger and Rogers left at an unknown time before 11:29 am.