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Start Date: 1-Dec-1971 11:46 AM

End Date: 1-Dec-1971 12:26 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ehrlichman, John D.White House operatorHarvey, James

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:45:22

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:21:54

627a.mp3

627b.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 1, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, and James Harvey met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:46 am to 12:26 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 627-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 627-9

Date: December 1, 1971
Time: 11:46 am - 12:26 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     White House Conference on Aging
          -Pharmaceutical question
               -Difficulties

John D. Ehrlichman entered at 11:47 am.

          -Speech
                -Leonard Garment’s memorandum of November 29, 1971
                -Prescription drugs
          -Office of Management and Budget (OMB)
                -No recommendation from the Administration
                -Arthur S. Flemming’s point of view
          -House Resolution [HR] 1
                -Russell B. Long speaking to older people
                      -Awareness
                      -Social Security
                      -Welfare
                -Older people
                      -Benefits of HR 1
                      -Ability to earn and keep money
                            -Methods used by the Administration
          -Speech
                -President’s schedule
                -Prescription drugs
                -Garment
                      -Memo
                            -Ehrlichman’s doubts
          -Economy [?]
                -Big ticket items
          -Older people
                                              13

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 627-9 (cont.)


          -Young people
          -Water Pollution bill
               -Edmund S. Muskie

     Luncheon for aged on November 30, 1971 attended by Ehrlichman
         -Legislation “typhoon”
               -Strong pitch for the rights of older people
                    -Praise for Ehrlichman
         -Competition from libraries, schools, and the military
     -Congress

[Pause]

     Property tax
          -Budget

     Tax bill speech
          -John K. Andrews, Jr.
                -Prepared draft
          -Inflation
          -Campaign check off provision
                -Veto
                     -Rationale
                           -Impact on political system
                           -Expense
          -Inflation
                -Need for jobs
                     -Congress

Campaign practices
    -Haldeman
          -Source
    -Muskie
          -Property taxes
          -California
    -Spiro T. Agnew

     Conferences
          -Cabinet Committee on Spanish Speaking People
               -Postponed
          -Flemming
                                            14

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 627-9 (cont.)


          -White House Conference on Aging
               -Similarity of audience
                     -Republican Women’s Federation
                           -Colorado chairman
                           -Make-up
               -President’s forthcoming meeting
                     -Possible handling
                           -Real estate tax
                     -Copy of speech
                           -Deadline

Ehrlichman left at 12:01 pm.

     Pharmaceutical question in Congress

     Television
          -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] program, “A Day in the Life of the
                President”, December 6, 1971
          -Clark MacGregor and William E. Timmons
                -Breakfast meeting with Congressional leaders
                      -Michael J. Mansfield and Hugh Scott
                            -“The Bigs”
                            -Gerald R. Ford, J. Caleb Boggs, Carl B. Albert
                      -Speaker or Senators
                      -Ford and Boggs
                      -Breakfast meeting
                      -House
                            -Cooperation
                      -Mansfield and Senate
                            -Lack of cooperation
                Breakfast meeting with Congressional leaders
                      -Advantages
                      -Discussions
                            -Albert, Ford, and Boggs
                            -John B. Connally

     Schedule
          -Decisions

     Speeches
          -Chicago
                                             15

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 627-9 (cont.)


                -Particular problems with speeches
                      -Too “bureaucratized”
          -Andrews
          -Maurice H. Stans [?]
                -Concern for historical legacy
                -Effectiveness
          -William L. Safire and Raymond K. Price, Jr.
          -Television


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 56s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     National Conference on Corrections, December 6, 1971
          -John N. Mitchell and Warren E. Burger
          -Greeting
               -Williamsburg, Virginia
               -Draft
                     -Key Biscayne
               -Media coverage
                     -Haldeman’s view

     The President's schedule
          -Bermuda
          -Congress
               -End of session
                      -Timing

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:01 pm and
12:15 pm.

[Conversation No. 627-9A]
                                             16

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 627-9 (cont.)



[See Conversation No. 15-178]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with James Harvey between 12:15 pm and 12:20 pm.

[Conversation No. 627-9B]

[See Conversation No. 15-179]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:20 pm and
12:26 pm.

[Conversation No. 627-9C]

[See Conversation No. 15-180]

[End of telephone conversation]

     NBC television show, “A Day in the Life of the President”
         -Congressional breakfast
               -Size of group
                     -Congressmen’s view
                     -NBC view
                     -President’s view
               -Ford
               -Leslie C. Arends
               -Boggs
               -Albert
               -Mansfield
               -Scott
         -Tax bill

     President’s schedule
          -Farm Bureau
          -Agricultural editors and photographs
                -Meet and greet opportunity
          -4-H speech
                                             17

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 627-9 (cont.)


               -Possible photographs opportunities
                     -Potential conflicts
          -Talking points

     Speeches
          -Recommendations by Haldeman

Haldeman left at 12:26 pm.