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Start Date: 10-Dec-1971 12:37 PM

End Date: 10-Dec-1971 12:47 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Timmesch, Nicholas P.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:44:57

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:54:42

635a.mp3

635b.mp3

635c.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Nicholas P. Timmesch, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:37 pm to 12:47 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 635-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 635-16

Date: December 10, 1971
Time: 12:37 pm - 12:47 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Nicholas P. Thimmesch and Ronald L. Ziegler; the White House
photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Thimmesch's columns

     [Photograph session]

     Thimmesch's schedule
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)            Conv. No. 635-16 (cont.)




[Edward C. Nixon]
    -Navy

Thimmesch's age

Florida
      -Navy
      -Jane’s Fighting Ships
      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
           -Executives

Thimmesch's columns

The President's meeting with David Packard
     -Packard resignation
          -Reasons

Navy
       -US position
             -Nuclear fleet
       -Undersea Long-range Missile System [ULMS]
                        -“Polaris”
       -Surface fleet
             -Attempt to modernize
       -Parity
       -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] navy
             -Modern
       -Merchant Marine
             -Thimmesch’s experience

Thimmesch
    -Washington Post
    -Washington Star
    -Los Angeles Times
    -Washington Post
         -Benjamin C. Bradlee
         -Katharine L. Graham
    -Charles W. Colson
         -Smith Hempstone, Jr.
              -Marine Corps experience
                                            38

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)             Conv. No. 635-16 (cont.)



          -Work on trips
               -Robert F. Ellsworth
          -Writing
          -Children
               -Location
          -Mike Wallace story
               -Wallace's background
          -Background
               -Luxembourg visit
               -Jack Thimmesch
               -Nicholas Thimmesch
               -Minnesota
                     -Family
          -Writing columns
               -Enjoyment
          -Time and Newsweek
          -Los Angeles Times
          -Television appearances
               -"Meet the Press"
               -"Firing Line"
                     -William F. Buckley, Jr.
               -Educational programs
               -Peter M. Flanigan
                     -Public broadcasting
               -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                     -Job offer
          -Children

Thimmesch and Ziegler left at 12:47 pm.