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Start Date: 18-Dec-1971 1:36 PM

End Date: 18-Dec-1971 2:06 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bhutto, Zulfikar AliRaza, Nawabzada AmHaig, Alexander M., Jr.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:52:43

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:21:36

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NARA Description:

On December 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Nawabzada Am Raza, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:36 pm to 2:06 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 639-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 639-11

Date: December 18, 1971
Time: 1:36 pm - 2:06 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Nawabzada Am Raza, and Gen. Alexander M. Haig,
Jr.; members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

[General conversation]

     Photograph

     President's schedule
          -John B. Connally call

     Pakistan
          -US position
          -United Nations [UN]
                -Bhutto’s speech
          -Bhutto expresses appreciation for US support
          -Bhutto previous meeting with the President
          -President's visit to Pakistan in 1964
          -Refreshments

     Telephone call for President

The President left at 1:40 pm.

     President's schedule
          -Group of Ten meeting

     Oval Office
          -Change
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 639-11 (cont.)


Manolo Sanchez entered at 1:40 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:46 pm.

     [General conversation]

     President's schedule
          -President’s forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                 -Timing
                 -Press corps

     Bhutto’s schedule
          -Rome
          -Paris

     South Asia
          -US embassy
                -Reports
                      -Fighting in west
                      -Students
          -[Unintelligible]


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]


     BANGLADESH


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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                -[Unintelligible]
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 639-11 (cont.)


           -Japanese surrender
                -US forces
           -French surrender to Germans

The president entered at 1:46 pm.

     President's schedule
          -Connally
          -International monetary situation

     Bhutto’s schedule
          -Rawalpindi
          -Rome

     India-Pakistan relations
           -Post-war difficulties
           -Occupation by force
           -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
           -Middle East
           -German occupation
           -Joseph Stalin’s comment
           -US position
                 -Reasons
                 -Time and the New York Times
                 -Press reaction
                       -US rationale and justification
                 -Anti-aggression
                 -Internal affairs
           -Balance of power
           -Vietnam
           -Future of Pakistan
                 -In possible contrast
                       -India
                       -Burma
                       -Ceylon
                       -USSR
           -President’s opinion
           -PRC position in Indian Sub-continent
           -PRC
                 -Ability
                 -Resources
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 639-11 (cont.)


     -Support
     -Concern over violence
     -Territorial integrity
     -Ceasefire
     -Military aid
           -Congress
     -Economic aid to Pakistan
           -Attitudes
           -Changes needed in Pakistan
                 “Live and let live” society
           -Henry A. Kissinger
           -William P. Rogers
     -Physical damage
           -Karachi
           -Haig
     -Negotiations
           -Possibilities discussed
           -US position

[Unintelligible]

          -Role of the UN
                -Humanitarian concerns
          -Possible difficulties
     -US aid to Pakistan
          -Amount comparison
     -Kashmir

[Unintelligible]

           -Ceasefire

[Unintelligible]

     -Help to achieve peace
          -President’s advice to Bhutto
     -[Unintelligible]
     -Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan
     -Nixon Doctrine
          -Need for self-help
     -USSR
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 639-11 (cont.)


             -PRC
             -Need for dialogue

     President's upcoming campaign

     Gifts
             -Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan

     Christmas celebrities
          -Plans on Christmas Eve [?]

     1960 election

Bhutto, Raza, and Haig left at 2:06 pm.