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Start Date: 22-Dec-1971 11:03 AM

End Date: 22-Dec-1971 11:33 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Powell, Lewis F., Jr.Smith, Richard S.Sumner, ChristopherPowell, Lewis F., IIIRehnquist, William H.Rehnquist, JamesRehnquist, JanetMitchell, John N.Johnson, Wallace H.Ehrlichman, John D.Krogh, Egil ("Bud"), Jr.Moore, Richard A.Colson, Charles W.Klein, Herbert G.Shepard, Geoffrey C.White House photographerBull, Stephen B.Nixon, Richard M. (President)Powell, Lewis F., Jr.Smith, Richard S.Sumner, ChristopherPowell, Lewis F., IIIRehnquist, William H.Rehnquist, JamesRehnquist, JanetMitchell, John N.Johnson, Wallace H.Ehrlichman, John D.Krogh, Egil ("Bud"), Jr.Moore, Richard A.Colson, Charles W.Klein, Herbert G.Shepard, Geoffrey C.White House photographerBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:18:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:51:59

640a.mp3

640b.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Lewis F. Powell, Jr., Richard S. Smith, Christopher Sumner, Lewis F. Powell, III, William H. Rehnquist, James Rehnquist, James Rehnquist, John N. Mitchell, Wallace H. Johnson, John D. Ehrlichman, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., Richard A. Moore, Charles W. Colson, Herbert G. Klein, Geoffrey C. Shepard, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:03 am to 11:33 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 640-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 640-5

Date: December 22, 1971
Time: 11:03 am - 11:33 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Lewis F. Powell, Jr., Mrs. Josephine Powell, Mrs. Richard S. Smith, Mrs.
Christopher Sumner, Lewis F. Powell, III, William H. Rehnquist, Mrs. Natalie Rehnquist, James
Rehnquist, Janet Rehnquist, Nancy Rehnquist, John N. Mitchell, Wallace Johnson, John D.
Ehrlichman, Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr., Richard A. Moore, Charles W. Colson. Herbert G.
Klein, Geoffrey C. Shepard; the White House photographer and members of the press were
present at the beginning of the meeting.

     [General conversation]
          -Introductions

     Formal ceremony
         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
         -Press coverage

     [General conversation]
          -Certificates
          -Civil War

     Presentation of commissions
          -Powell
                -Remarks by the President
          -Rehnquist
                -Remarks by the President
                      -Senate confirmation
          -President's law experience
          -Duty to the law
                -Politics

     [General conversation]
          -Picture
                -Powell family with the President
                -Rehnquist family with the President
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 640-5 (cont.)


           -Gifts
                 -Cufflinks
                       -Presidential seal
           -Mike Reynolds
                 -White House tour
           -“A Day in the Life of the President”
           -Football
           -Mitchell
           -Larry Johnson
                 -Performance
           -Rehnquist vote
                 -Charles E. Hughes
                 -Louis D. Brandeis
           -Johnson
                 -Roman L. Hruska
                 -Unknown person
                 -Annapolis
                       -Unknown dinner
                             -[David] Dwight Eisenhower II and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                 -Age
                 -Gifts

     The President’s remarks

     Shepard [?]
          -Health
          -Schedule
                -Ehrlichman
                -Revenue sharing
                -Welfare reform

Powell, et al. left at 11:21 am.

     Yeoman Charles E. Radford
         -Polygraph

     Adm. Robert O. Welander
         -Forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
         -Henry A. Kissinger's letter

     Alger Hiss
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 640-5 (cont.)



    Whitaker Chambers

    Jack N. Anderson
         -Possible blackmail of yeoman


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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[Duration: 15s ]


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         -Re-interrogation of Radford
              -Polygraph

    Radford
         -Compared to Daniel Ellsberg
               -Knowledge
         -Strategy
               -Threat of prosecution
         -Welander's involvement
               -Kissinger
               -Transfer
               -Meeting with Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
               -Interrogation of Welander
                     -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] involvement
                     -Possible admission from Welander
         -JCS
               -Maj. Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes's successor
         -Welander
               -Difficulties
               -Effect on career
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 640-5 (cont.)


     Anderson
         -Relationships within the government
         -Compared to Drew Pearson
         -Walter J. Hickel
         -Sources
         -William L. Safire
         -Hidden sources
         -Check of columns
               -Young

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:21 am.

     The President’s schedule
          -Cabinet Room

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:33 am.

     Justice Department staff
           -Wallace H. Johnson
                -Eisenhower
           -John W. Dean, III
           -Donald E. Santarelli
           -Johnson
                -Duties
                     -Hruska
                     -Congress
                -Eisenhower
                -Dealing with Congress
                -Campaign reform legislation
                     -Letter from the President
                           -Congratulations

     Radford
          -Instructions to Mitchell
                -Methods
                -JCS
                -Kissinger
                      -State Department
                            -Leaks
                      -William P. Rogers
                -Security officer
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 640-5 (cont.)


                     -Briefing from Young
           -Memorandum from Young about incident
           -Espionage

     Chairman of Commission on Financial Structure and Regulation
          -Address
               -Washington State
                   -Tacoma

The President, Mitchell, and Ehrlichman left at 11:33 am.