Conversation: 642-029
Prev: 642-028 Next: 642-030Start Date: 3-Jan-1972 11:42 AM
End Date: 3-Jan-1972 12:05 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.; Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap"); Sanchez, Manolo; White House operator;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:43:16
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:06:25
NARA Description:
On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Manolo Sanchez, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:42 am to 12:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 642-029 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 642-29
Date: January 3, 1972
Time: 11:42 am - 12:05 pm
Location: Oval Office
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 642-29 (cont.)
The President met with George P. Shultz and Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger.
Greetings
Budget
-Final draft
-Order of magnitude
-Unemployment
-Deficit
-Outlays
-Full employment
-1972 and 1973
-Spending
-Defense
-Economy
-1973 compared to 1972
-Deficits
-1968
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Size
-Size of national economy
-Growth
-Downward pressures
-Messages
-Drafts for the President
-Legacy of inflation
-Economic programs
-Unemployment
-Inflation
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:42 am.
Misplaced papers
-Location
-Clothing
-Executive Office Building [EOB] office
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.
Budget
-Reductions
-Target level
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 642-29 (cont.)
-Camp David
-Defense Department
-Civilian employment
-Possible cuts
-Departments of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] and Treasury
-Economic Stabilization program
-Social Security
-Congress
-Goal
-Defense Department
-Bases
-Employment
-Defense strength
-Civilian employment in government
-The President's goal
-Defense Department
-Reaction
-David Packard
-Robert C. Moot
-Congressional action
-Civilian employees
-Target level
-The President's goal
-Pentagon
-Washington, DC area
-Base number
-Cuts
-Washington, DC area
-Number to be cut
-Types of jobs
-Allocation of cuts in nation and region
-General unemployment
-Melvin R. Laird
-Role
-Forthcoming talk with Weinberger
-The President’s instructions
-Pentagon
-Case
-Economy
-Arthur F. Burns
-Allocation of cuts in nation and region
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 642-29 (cont.)
-Target level
-Distribution
-Military aides
-Deputies
-White House budget
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Civilian federal employment
-Allocation of cuts in nation and region
-Washington, DC
-Attrition
-Washington, DC federal government bureaucracy
-Size
-Bureau of Indian Affairs
-George E. Allen
-Story
-Harry L. Hopkins
-Works Progress Administration [WPA] workers
-Statistical table
-Bureau of Indian Affairs
-Story
-Welfare
The President's recent interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
-The President's response to question about foreign policy and politics
-Soviet Union and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Delay in ending Vietnam War
-Question regarding differences between blacks and whites
-Rather's performance
-The President's response
-Blacks, whites and Chicanos
-Schools, neighborhoods
-Liberals’ view
-Television advertisement for Equitable Life Insurance
-F. Scott Fitzgerald quote on rich people
[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:42 am and
12:05 pm.]
[Conversation No. 642-29A]
[See Conversation No. 18-7]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 642-29 (cont.)
[End of telephone conversation]
Allen
-Storytelling ability
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Bridge
-Harry S. Truman
-Eisenhower
-Heart attack
-Golf game
Story
-Return call from Allen
Shultz and Weinberger left at 12:05 pm.