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Conversation 644-005

TapeTape 644StartMonday, January 10, 1972 at 10:22 AMEndMonday, January 10, 1972 at 10:37 AMTape start time00:12:42Tape end time00:27:45ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose Mary;  Rangel, Charles B.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, met to discuss a range of administrative and personal matters, including the President's upcoming work schedule at Camp David, correspondence logistics, and the successful reception of First Lady Pat Nixon's recent trip to Africa. They also addressed the procurement of drinking glasses for the White House and the handling of birthday greetings and gifts received by the President. During the meeting, Nixon provided instructions regarding the delegation of administrative tasks and expressed interest in coordinating a recognition event for General James D. Hughes.

White House administrationPat NixonCamp DavidCorrespondencePresidential scheduleProcurement
AudioNARA Description

On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Charles B. Rangel met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:22 am to 10:37 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 644-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 644-5

Date: January 10, 1972
Time: 10:22 am - 10:37 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

     Replacement of drinking glasses
          -Champagne
          -Water

[The President talked with Charles B. (“Bebe”) Rebozo between 10:23 am and 10:24 am.]

[Conversation No. 644-5A]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/03/2022.
Segment cleared for release.]
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[Duration: 54s]

[See Conversation No. 18-27]

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[End of telephone call]

     Materials to Woods
          -Unknown person
          -Correspondence
                -Frank Urich
                -Peter M. Flanigan
              -Unknown Jewish man in New York
                   -Wife
          -Unnamed person

     Replacement of drinking glasses
          -Differences
          -Order

     Birthday cards
          -Responses

     Unnamed Navy captain's business project
         -F. Donald Nixon
         -John C. Whitaker

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/03/2022.
48s segment cleared for release.30s remain n closed as 644-005-w002.]
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[Duration: 48s]

     The President’s role in the Administration
          -Workload

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[Duration: 30s]

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     Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s recent trip to Africa
          -Success
                -The President’s opinion
          -Tricia Nixon Cox
          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
          -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
          -Edward R.F. Cox

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     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s recent trip to Africa
          -Draft letter for the President to send to the Grambling band
                -Performance in Liberia
                      -Certificate
                -Correspondence channels
                      -National Security Council [NSC]
                      -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                      -Henry A. Kissinger
                      -William R. Codus
                -Mrs. Nixon’s reception
                      -The President’s appreciation
                             -Courtesies
                      -Liberia, Ghana, Ivory Coast
          -Letters
                -Replies

Unknown instruction

The President's schedule
     -Camp David
          -Work on State of the Union speech
                 -Use of time
                 -Price’s draft
                       -Length
     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
          -Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes
                 -Departure from White House post
                       -Possible occasion
                             -Location
          -Coordination

Birthday
     -The President's January 9, 1972 birthday
          -Telegrams
          -Selection of cards received
                -Florida
     -Special Christmas cards
     -Odes
          -Mrs. Nixon
          -Walter [Surname unknown]
          -Fifth-grade class birthday greeting for the President
     -Packages of cards
          -Florida

Mrs. Strauss [?]
     -Handwritten note of support for the President
           -Campaign contribution to Committee to Re-elect the President
     Replacement of drinking glasses
          -Champagne

Woods left at 10:37 am.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Well, I finally caught up with you.
Yeah.
Well, I tell you, it's a lot different.
A lot better.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, we'll be down on the 21st, I think.
So I look forward to seeing you then.
Is everything going all right?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, that's good.
And we can...
I didn't take any time off because I was quite busy.
But everything was fine.
She sure did.
Excellent coverage.
Excellent.
That's what we all thought.
All right.
Well, we look forward to seeing you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is something from France.
Now that would be here.
Here's a Jewish fellow in New York.
Well, he does sometimes.
Sometimes he does.
Most of the people are using him.
Huh?
Most of the people are using him.
And he does it sometimes.
It's true.
Let me see.
Yeah, I just wanted to show the difference in the white.
Yeah.
Everything is just great.
But I just wanted to show the difference in the white.
We already did order, and they're all right.
Thank you.
This follows some of all of these...another...nay cabins.
He probably was just promoting for himself.
Well, he's in some sort of business, Rose.
Ah, yes.
Yeah, he's in some, he's in, you know, he's already talked to Woody, right?
About the business.
And just sort of a very bright guy.
Whatever the case might be.
You know, it's like all of our people, people, by the scores.
Oh, they count all of them, but you just can't count them.
You don't know what the hell to do about it, I guess.
And he can't realize the scope of what you have to do.
He doesn't realize that you can't sit here and think about individual problems.
He has the slightest idea.
And it was good, I knew that when we got news, but... Well, that's not true.
She's had great success.
It was good for her and Trisha and Julie and David.
They were all nice.
Yeah, they were very nice.
Very nice affairs.
And it's been much better, you know.
And Trisha also is, she's been, I think,
I want to be sure that that Grammar fan gets a nice note, you know, that Grammar fan gets a nice note.
Yes, sir.
Yes, that letter that I...
I've had that.
Enthusiasm, of course, on the suburb.
I'm not very sure on the suburb.
during the operation.
Well, now he was worse than my son.
They got you all over here, sir.
They were...
They all agreed that they were bad.
I was proud of them.
And then, what do you tell them?
I don't think anybody in this city can write up maybe get a crisis from hell.
Who would be in charge of that now?
It would have to come through, yes, sir.
But what they do is they approve the language.
Ray Price is on the trip, you know, or somebody, whoever is on the trip has to, it's the kind of letter where they say, dear Mr. President.
Yeah, well, they would have an agency do them as they went along, give them drafts.
So let me find out whether from those that they write in.
I didn't want a letter from me.
I know.
Any smart person around here can take those letters and answer like that and so forth.
Just put up the word on the table and please do not forget it, okay?
If you get a smarter person, you get the rest.
Are you going to try to get up to Camp David to work on your pizza?
That's what I was thinking.
It's better.
You can do it better.
Yeah.
Okay.
And when you're talking to Haldeman, maybe you can tell me, he mentioned the other day, and you said you did want to do something for a general view.
Well, that would be something probably small in the White, over in Whitehouse, wouldn't it?
I'd be happy to answer because, you know, his people kind of do something.
Sure.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's a different matter.
It would just be different dates and penalties, all right.
Yeah.
If Hollywood can let me know, I can tell them not to.
Makes the day easier.
And with all the things you have to do, I don't know, but if you want to see any of their love telegrams standing for your birthday, do you want me to just put a few specials somewhere and leave them in the FYI until you're ready to see them?
That's a nice idea.
Let me go to the floor and go back.
Yeah, that's what I thought later on.
I didn't see the special Christmas cards.
Oh, I sent a box over to that?
Well, they never got them to me, so maybe you could send us a few of those small boxes.
Did you ever get your oath yesterday?
Last night?
The oath?
No, the oath.
I suppose they're over there.
I wonder where they are.
They are in my bedroom.
No, they sent them over and told them one for you, one for Pat.
But I'll find out where they are.
I didn't ask when I was there, because I thought maybe Walter might stay downstairs a few minutes, you know, so you could all get up there and sort of get settled.
But I know you didn't have time to read it.
No, we didn't see it.
And I was going to keep something from a fifth grade class for you or something, just a little thing.
So I'll find out where they are.
and save the things and get them ready and send them out.
It's just a little package for you to look at down on the floor.
And Mrs. Trout, I will tell you from her note, she's like the handwritten note that she gave us.
That she was the first president and she had any truck that was close to $3,000 just for the committee to be elected.
Yes, that's right.
Now, would you like to go ahead and get a complete two dozen of the same type that you have up there and then have these as extras?
So that they have a full two dozen of them, that's all they have.
That's what I thought.
Right.
Just leave these extras.
That's right.
Don't try to replace this stuff.
Well, you can't.
You see, we ordered this, but they don't make it count.
I think it's great.
I think it's great.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's just great.
That's great.
I love these.
How?
Or if I do, I'll buy any of them.
That's right.
I do use them.
You're absolutely right.
Is that all right?
Yes.
and don't look back.
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