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Conversation: 644-017

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Start Date: 10-Jan-1972 10:50 AM

End Date: 10-Jan-1972 11:52 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Ehrlichman, John D.Fletcher, Arthur A.Brown, Robert J.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.Drake, Carthur L. M.Scott, Stanley S.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:41:05

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:38:39

644a.mp3

644b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, John D. Ehrlichman, Arthur A. Fletcher, Robert J. Brown, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Carthur L. M. Drake, Stanley S. Scott, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:52 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 644-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 644-17

Date: January 10, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:50 am and 11:52 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Thelma C. (“Pat’) Nixon’s return from Africa
          -Airport arrival
               -Invitations
                      -Alexander P. Butterfield’s check
                      -William P. Rogers, Maurice, H. Stans, John B. Connally
                      -Butterfield’s responsibility
                            -Follow-up

     State of the Union speech
           -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s draft
                 -Length
                 -Readiness

     The President's schedule
          -Camp David
          -John E. Sheehan
               -Swearing-in ceremony
          -Robert O. Anderson appointment
          -Arthur S. Flemming swearing-in
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


               -Time
          -Camp David
          -Vietnam statement preparation
          -Anderson
          -Meeting with Neil H. McElroy
               -John D. Ehrlichman
               -Timing
                    -State of the Union speech
               -School finance meeting

     School financing
         -Ehrlichman
                -John B. Connally
                -McElroy
                -Advisory Council on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR]

     John N. Mitchell's meeting
          -Timing
               -Political meetings

     Connally

     Mitchell

     State of the Union speech

     [David] Kenneth Rush
          -Meeting with the President
               -Scheduling

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:50 am.

     Rush meeting
          -Rescheduling

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:30 am.

     Vietnam troop withdrawal announcement
          -Timing
               -Anderson
          -Swearing-in
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                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


           -Scheduling

Sheehan appointment
     -Public relations
          -Press
          -Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
          -Photograph session
                 -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

Flemming meeting
    -Press
    -Scheduling

Cabinet meeting

Meeting with Congressional leaders
     -Clark MacGregor's and Ehrlichman's suggestions
     -Briefing
           -Bipartisanship
     -Format
           -Message
     -Scheduling
           -Vietnam announcement
     -Committee chairman
     -Timing
           -Vietnam peace proposal
     -Henry A. Kissinger’s briefing
           -Foreign policy leaders

White House social affairs
     -February 10, 1972
          -National Center for Voluntary Action
          -Press conference
          -Florida
     -February 1, 1972
          -National prayer breakfast
                -William R. Tolbert, Jr. of Liberia
          -Tolbert
                -Black-tie dinner
                -Day meeting
                -Blair House
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


          -Republican governors dinner, January 31, 1972
               -Mitchell
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
               -Cabinet
               -Senior White House staff
               -Briefings
               -The President’s forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
          -DeWitt Wallace dinner
          -Republican governors dinner
               -Timing
               -Tolbert
               -Mitchell's, Agnew’s, and Ehrlichman’s recommendation
               -Scheduling
               -Timing
                     -1972 election

     Briefings
           -Ehrlichman
           -Presidential involvement
                 -Dinner

     Vermont congressmen
         -Robert T. Stafford, [Richard W. Mallary]
         -Meeting with the President
               -Atkins's possible photograph session

     Kissinger

     School financing
         -McElroy

     Connally
         -Invitation to [Mrs. Nixon’s airport reception]
               -Personal secretary
                     -Others
         -Schedule

     School financing
         -McElroy

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:50 am.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)



     Arrival of Rush at National Airport
          -Meeting with the President
                -Scheduling
                     -Kissinger
                           -Hilton Hotel

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:30 am.

     McElroy
         -January 13, 1972
              -State of the Union speech
              -Anderson

     Anderson
         -Industrial conference board
         -Time of meeting

     Meeting with Netherlands Prime Minister Barend W. Biesheuvel
          -Scheduling
               -Kissinger, State Department
               -State of the Union
                     -Timing
                     -Ehrlichman, John C. Whitaker
          -Dutch ambassador's [Baron Rijnhard Van Lyden’s] call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
          -Press conference

     Meeting with cabinet and congressional leaders
          -Scheduling
               -Prayer breakfast

     The President's schedule
          -Netherlands Prime Minister
               -Meeting duration

     Dr. Rainer Barzel
          -Meeting proposal
                -Kissinger
                -Previous meeting
                -Willy Brandt
                -Wallace dinner
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


          -Biesheuvel

The President's schedule
     -Kissinger
     -The President’s forthcoming PRC trip
     -Nihat Erim of Turkey
           -France
           -Alexander P. Haig, Jr.
           -Possible future visit
     -Luis Echeverria Alvarez of Mexico
           -The President’s forthcoming trips to the PRC and Soviet Union
                 -Erim
           -Haig

State visits
      -Arrangements
             -Duration
             -Camp David, Blair House
             -Office visit, dinner

The President's schedule
     -[Emperor of Japan] Hirohito
     -Morocco, Peru and Nigeria
     -Ivory Coast
          -Mrs. Nixon’s trip
                 -Courtesies
          -Kissinger

State visits
      -Arrangements
             -Itinerary
             -Camp David

Donald McI. Kendall
    -Soviet Union report
    -Scheduling of meeting with the President
         -The President’s forthcoming trips to the PRC and Soviet Union

Meetings with the President
     -Allen J. Ellender
     -Scheduling
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


               -Kissinger
               -Ivory Coast
               -Eheverria
               -The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
               -Foreign visits
                    -Rate
               -Foreign policy issue

     The President schedule
          -Camp David
               -Super Bowl VI

     Atkins's photograph sessions of forthcoming meetings
          -Health Services Industry Committee


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     Vietnam
          -Negotiations
              -Kissinger
                     -Possible message for Anna C. Chennault
                          -Five power alliance
                          -Haig

Ehrlichman entered at 11:30 am.

     McElroy

     Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations
          -Agnew’s recommendation
                                        15

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


      -Composition
          -Edmund S. Muskie, Dale Bumpers, Warren E. Hearnes, Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.,
                Howard (“Bo”) Calloway, Edward C. Banfield, Ronald W. Reagan,
                Richard B. Ogilvie, Robert H. Finch, George W. Romney, George P.
                Shultz, Al Ullman, Florence P. Dwyer
          -Local leaders
                -Russell Arrington, Robert Knowles
          -Muskie
                -Dilemma
          -Agnew, Connally, Elliot L. Richardson
                -Possible presentation to ACIR
                      -Value-added tax [VAT]
                            -State sales taxes
                      -Federalism
                      -McElroy Commission
                      -The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
                -Focus on real estate taxes
          -The President's proposals for ACIR
                -State of the Union speech
          -Connally's reactions
                -Talk with Ehrlichman
                -The President’s possible posture
                      -State of the Union speech
                      -Agnew

State of the Union speech
      -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s draft
            -Length
                 -Supplemental notes
                 -Need for editing
                      -The President’s role
                      -Ehrlichman’s role
                 -Contents of message
                      -Farmers, elderly
                      -Omissions
                            -Farmers, Latin America
                      -Amount of time on subjects

VAT
      -ACIR proposal
          -Connally
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


                -Possible statement
                -Connally
                     -Talk with Ehrlichman
                -Agnew
                     -Talk with Ehrlichman

     Meeting of committee
          -McElroy
          -Agnew, Richardson, Connally
          -Clarence Walton
          -ACIR
               -Presentation
                     -Scheduling
                           -Agnew, Connally, Richardson
                           -Press
                           -State of the Union speech
                           -Vietnam speech
                     -Agnew
          -Finch, Romney, Shultz
          -Richard G. Lugar
          -Presentation to Congress of proposals
               -Publicity
                     -Press coverage
          -Connally


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Haldeman left at 11:32 am.

     Story on Howard Hughes
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)


          -Television coverage

     Whitaker
          -Film on environmental policy
               -Delivery to networks
                     -Timing
                           -Special message on environment
               -Introduction or cameo appearance by the President
          -Memorandum
               -Environmental events
                     -Rate

     Environment
          -Possible trip by the President
               -Timing
                      -The President’s forthcoming trip to the PRC
               -Publicity
               -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                      -Big Cypress Swamp tour
                            -Publicity
                      -Interest in environment
                            -Legacy of parks
               -Timing
               -Russell E. Train
               -William D. Ruckelshaus
          -Speeches by the President
               -Effectiveness
               -Chicago, Minneapolis
                      -Environmental congress
               -Publicity on TV
          -Grand Teton trip
          -Eisenhower
               -Press coverage of trip to swamp

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.

     Dr. Arthur A. Fletcher
          -Presidential gift
                -Bookmark

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:48 am.
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                                        Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)



     Environment
          -Eisenhower

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.

     Schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:48 am.

     Environment
          -Tricia Nixon Cox, Thelma C. (“Pat’) Nixon
          -Program for publicity
                -Youth
                -Trip to Yellowstone National Park
                      -Centennial
                -Air, water-related issues

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.

     The President's meeting with Fletcher
          -Carthur L. M. Drake

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:48 am.

     Mrs. Nixon's trip to Africa
          -Value
               -Comparison to Agnew's trips

Fletcher, Robert J. Brown, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Drake, and Stanley S. Scott entered at 11:48 am;
the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting; Ehrlichman left at
11:50 am.

     Introductions

     Mrs. Nixon's trip to Liberia
          -Grambling University band
          -US Information Agency [USIA] funding limits
          -Grambling band's reception in Liberia
               -Gen. Walter R. Tkach
          -Television coverage
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                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 644-17 (cont.)



      Presentation of check

      [Photograph session]

Fletcher, et al. left at 11:52 am.